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Pints With Aquinas

Two Boomers Complaining About The World (Trent Horn) Ep. 565

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.87K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 150 minutes

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Catholic apologist Trent Horn opens up about his wife's brain tumor, the toxicity plaguing online Catholic discourse, and why he now sends his scripts to critics before publishing. This wide-ranging conversation covers everything from dating culture and Gen Z struggles to practical advice for Protestants considering Catholicism. A candid, honest discussion about faith, suffering, and how to evangelize with both truth and love. Ep. 565 📲 Connect with Trent:  Instagram: @counseloftrentpodcast/ YouTube: @TheCounselofTrent - - - Today's Sponsors: Seven Weeks Coffee: Save up to 25% with promo code 'PINTS' at https://sevenweekscoffee.com/PINTS Charity Mobile: Visit https://charitymobile.com/MATTFRADD to get started. St. Paul Center: Join the Bible Study movement alongside a global community. Sign up today at https://stpaulcenter.com/pints Cowguys: Visit https://tallowdeodorant.shop and get a beef tallow balm for free. Catholic Match: Download the app or head to https://CatholicMatch.com and find your forever. - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠ 🍿 The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of the Merlin is now streaming exclusively on DailyWire+ Watch now: https://dwplus.watch/ThePendragon - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So what is your take on this resurgence or return to Catholicism?

0:04.0

Gen Z is like one of the least Christian generations.

0:07.5

I don't see anything contradicting the claim that for every one person who becomes Catholic, eight leave.

0:12.5

Man, social media is just an inhuman thing.

0:15.0

This world rewards vice. Pride, lust, envy, greed, wrath, sloth.

0:20.0

Isn't that so true? Everything that gets multiplied on the internet appeals to one of those deadly sins. In the so-called manosphere, there are things they'll say that are true. Like, for men, if you want to attract women, there's things you should do, things you shouldn't do. This idea like, oh, I'm just better off without women. And then they go forward 20 years and can't go back. Some people get all nervous in our Catholic circles like, well, I don't know, am I called to marriage? Like, yeah, you are. Do you think there are things that you're seeing kind of rear their head within the church itself? When I will put forward content that will say, oh, they got X right or we got X wrong, it's like, hey, wait a minute, you're going against the team on this.

0:56.1

Why are you counter signaling us? You mean saying something you disagree with?

1:00.4

Trent, one of the, I remember the funniest way I have introduced you, at least to me, is I went, Trentius, horniest, and you went, nope. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to pave right over that. Start that again. We're going to hear the speed bump. We're going to ask, what was that we hit? I'm not even going to look back. We're going to keep driving.

1:45.7

That reminds me of that office episode. One day, Michael came in complaining about a speed bump in the highway. I wonder who he hit with this car then. I wonder. Thank you for being on my show. Oh, thank you for having me. This is a lovely set, by the way. Thank you. It's amazing. I did nothing at all.

1:45.7

I just told him, I wanted to kind of look like a hunting lodge meets cigar lounge meets

1:51.4

Nook in a library or Irish pub.

1:53.9

So your set design crew is just kind of like a living chat GPT and you're like, what would

1:58.2

it look like if we did this?

1:59.4

And it's like, yeah.

2:51.6

Well, it's actually a lovely woman. I went, because I met her in one of the meetings we had here at DailyWire to talk about the set. And I walked in and she was so classy looking. She had like leopard skin glasses on. Yeah. And I looked at her and I thought, whatever you want, I'll do. I just, I show my belly. Well, so you just have to defer to the experts someday. A hundred percent. Essentially, if it's something totally outside of your wheelhouse, it's kind of interesting in writing my books for Catholic Answers at the very beginning, like my first and second book, I would be really nitpicky about all of the edits. Like, are you changing this? Are you changing that? But now I think I'm on like book 12 or 13. I'm like, select all. It's probably fine. I'm sure you guys know what you're doing by now. Ah, that's funny you say that because me, I'm not a good writer. So I actually beg them to like edit the stuff out of it. And then I'll accept it all. would presume you're actually pretty good I'm trying you're good but tired well I give up there's so

2:56.6

there's been a lot going on with this recently but when it when it comes to writing it's interesting

3:00.4

for council trend I've really enjoyed doing the shows doing two episodes a week what what started

3:05.8

as just an audio podcast where I mean that was that was back in the mid-20, well, late

3:10.3

2010s when everybody just throw on a microphone, here's what I think about this.

3:14.1

And that's podcast.

3:15.7

Then I thought, oh, what if I had a camera rolling while I did podcast?

3:19.4

And then that turned into, I want to make content that really edifies people and is efficient. And it makes a

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