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NPR's Book of the Day

Two authors on writing unlikable characters and the power of storytelling

NPR's Book of the Day

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Books, Arts

4.2672 Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2022

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

The two books in today's episode point up how authors write and empathize with characters that aren't exactly likable. First we hear from Anthony Doerr who spoke to NPR correspondent Arun Rath about his Pulitzer-Prize winning novel All The Light We Cannot See. Doer talks about how we can better understand the moral choices people make by tuning into untold stories. Then, Scott Simon of NPR's Weekend Edition interviews author Yiyun Li about her new novel The Book of Goose. It's a story of two ruthless French girls who write a book that alters their lives.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. You know, it's always interesting to hear how different authors empathize with their characters, particularly when their characters aren't necessarily the best people. Today, we've got two authors on the pod who wrote books involving young teens during World War II. In a bit, we'll hear from the

0:21.8

acclaimed author Yi and Lee talking about her new book, The Book of Goose. But first, as a point of

0:27.0

comparison, I want to play this interview for you from 2014. It's between NPR's Arun Roth and the author

0:33.0

Anthony Doer, who had just written his book All the Light We Cannot See, which would eventually

0:37.8

win the 2015 Pulitzer for fiction. It's about a blind girl who takes refuge in rural France

0:43.3

during the war, and a boy who becomes a Nazi. And in this interview, Doer says something

0:48.5

interesting about evil and how it works and how it's not something that happens in an instant,

0:54.2

but is instead a matter of degrees.

0:57.7

Is there anything left to say about World War II?

1:01.5

There are so many books written about the war.

1:03.4

Supposedly if you drop them on Germany, it would cover the whole country.

1:06.5

I'm not sure if that's true.

1:08.0

But I thought, you know, why do I need to add one more?

1:10.3

And for me, I just thought I would try to dwell very specifically on these two children as they move through the war.

1:16.6

That's writer Anthony Dorr, and the children he's talking about are the protagonists in his new novel, All the Light We Cannot See.

1:24.2

Door is exploring familiar history through unfamiliar perspectives, hoping you can see the world from

1:29.6

the viewpoint of these two children.

1:31.9

He admits that was a challenge for one of them, a young boy named Werner, who becomes a

1:36.2

Nazi.

1:37.2

I asked Dora to talk first about Werner's counterpart, the French girl Marie.

1:41.7

She's a sightless girl.

1:42.7

She loses her sight at the age of six. Her father works

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