This Week in Virology, the Podcast About Viruses, the kind that make you sick.

From Microbe TV, this is Twive this week in virology episode

1121 recorded on June 7, 2024 I'm Vincent Dracken-Yello and you're listening to the podcast all about viruses.

Many of you know because you've written to us that an opinion piece was published in the New York Times in the past week by

Lena Chan and the title is Why the Pandemic Probably Started in a Lab in Five Key

Points. We've received many email requests to discuss

this and so that is what we are going to do because the title isn't correct and we're going to go through each

of the five key points and tell you why.

And I think before we launch into that discussion specifically, Jolene, do you want to run down the

This is not the first time this has come up on the show? Yeah, so we're gonna go through and discuss some of the article, but we have done this in much greater depth actually discussing the papers that address these points as well as talking to some of the scientists and just to remind people of where they can hear about this

discussed in greater depth and kind of listen to the evidence that has been presented. I wanted to run through a few of the episodes that we have will put a list in the show notes that where these things have been discussed.

So Twive 1019 Eddie Holmes on Sarskove 2 origins.

Twive 940, also Eddie Holmes in on viral origins.

We have Twive 861, rough draft of Omicron origins.

Twive 762, Sarskovey 2 origins with Robert Gary,

where we did talk about things like the receptor binding domain in the

fear and cleavage site and the two lineages circulating in the Wuhan

Wildlife markets. Twive 760 Sarskove 2 origins with Peter Dashak, Thea Colson, Fisher, and Marion Coopmans.

And Twive 777, Sars Kove 2 fitness with Ron Fusier, Fitness and the ability of SARS Kove 2 to

replicate and spread in other organisms. There is a long list. I'm not going to read all of them, but look in the show notes for many more instances of Twive episodes where we discussed with guests and just discussing papers. A lot of these points are about to go through.

And if you're on YouTube, that'll be down right below this video.

So there are five points in this opinion, but there is an introduction and let me read from the

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