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🗓️ 4 March 2023
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0:00.0 | This week in virology, the podcast about viruses, the kind that make you sick. |
0:10.4 | From microbe TV, this is TWIV, this week in virology, episode 988 recorded on March 2nd, 2023. |
0:20.6 | I'm Vincent Racken-Ello, and you're listening to the podcast all about viruses. Joining me today from |
0:27.2 | New York, Daniel Griffin. Hello, everyone. So Daniel, are you upset at the possibility that Nova |
0:34.8 | Vax might go out of business? I am actually. Yeah, I mean, I'm hearing that their stock has fallen |
0:41.6 | off a cliff, right? They are concerned that going forward, they might not be able to survive. |
0:47.7 | I'm not so much concerned about the company as I am about the product. It is amazing to me, |
0:53.9 | how few people have gone ahead with the Nova Vax vaccine. Everyone complains, |
0:58.6 | oh, the mRNA technology, and this and that. Well, here is a protein-based vaccine, this is the same |
1:05.9 | thing. Shingles, no one box, no one thinks they're getting a shingle shot, is any sort of odd. |
1:12.3 | But yeah, I don't think we can let this happen. I don't see the product going away, |
1:16.8 | but it is a little troubling. And actually, as we get into today, I talk about another company that |
1:21.8 | might be going bankrupt. Well, it seems to me that part of the issue was the adjuvant they used, |
1:26.9 | which was difficult to obtain, I understand, and that's too bad. But I do think it offers an |
1:33.1 | alternative for people who would like to try something else, right? And even for people that can't |
1:38.4 | tolerate, and if we are going to be talking about boosting on a regular basis, certain people |
1:43.1 | are going to want another option because they have a peg allergy or some other issue. So yeah, |
1:48.4 | we do need more options. I don't like the idea of there's only one type of vaccine, and that's it. |
1:55.2 | And last week, you talked about RS virus vaccines, and one of them was a protein-based vaccine. |
2:01.2 | Yeah, it is interesting. Everyone sort of had this idea like, oh my gosh, mRNA vaccines, |
2:05.8 | that's the future. It's really just a way of showing the protein to our immune system and |
2:11.5 | getting our immune system to learn. I'm not sure that it is essential that every vaccine in the |
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