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Hi on listeners, name Araza here. It's not Monday or Thursday and yet there's something in your feed.

We're trying something a little different today.

We wanted to share with you a Twitter space's conversation tape Monday night.

In it, Cara is joined by William Cohen, a journalist and founding partner of Pock,

which is one of my favorite places for news and newsletters.

I'm Scott Gowley, a business professor and co-host of the Pivot podcast.

Yes, my arc nemesis Scott. I'm kidding, he's very good.

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