Twitch used to be where you had entertaining gamers that became big.

Now you have entertainers that might sometimes games.

I like the fact that you're streaming.

I watched one of your IRL streams from New York.

It's definitely not in the tech CEO PR playbook.

I guess it isn't.

Yo, Dan, when do we bring you back Twitch contracts?

Jason, wait, if we brought them back, you just don't have one.

Is there any pressure from Amazon to shift really what Twitch is?

A lot of companies make this mistake where they think they can be all things to all people.

Often, those efforts fail.

You can't serve two masters.

You have to understand, and the thing that makes Twitch so special

is the community. And the foundation of community is.

All right, Dan Clancy, welcome to the show. Great to be here. You are the CEO of Twitch.

That's what they tell me.

There's a rumor. That's what people say. There's a rumor. It'd be concerning if you were like,

wait, wait, wait, wait, I am. Excuse me, no. Twitch holds a really interesting place in culture right now. And, you know, also in the creator economy.

But to me, it feels like it's, I'm just curious how you would explain the place it holds in the creator economy right now.

The way I explain the place and it's not just about the creator economy kind it's the broader world is um uh there's

something about authentic connection you know with with people and of course you know the the

social media and it has grown incredibly however all the other interaction is this sort of

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