Twin, Where Have You Been?: A Tender Conversation with Dr. Joy James

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🗓️ 13 February 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Alternate episode titles: -Dr. Joy James Might Break the Internet If You Would Let Her Upgrade You -This is a wonderful, Establishment, Trump and Swiftie friendly episode, absolutely nothing to shadow ban here, nope not at all (devil emoji) If you couldn't tell, we are super juiced to invite you all to a very special, mind reconfiguring politic shaking and shaping episode of Black People Telling Black History with the Icon herself, Dr. Joy James. Join us in chopping it up with Dr. James in what was a rich discourse spurned from her new book, In Pursuit of Revolutionary Love and New Bones Abolition: Captive Maternal Agency and the (after) life of Erica Garner, out now. This pre-Valentine's Day episode is all about love (see what I did there), but not the hallmark card consumer capitalist iteration of love but the love that has us stop our movements from being exploited and destabilized by capitalist interests from compadors or even well meaning actors who are subservient to the system. Agape driven love, what Dr. James demarcates as, "love as political will, communal care and protections...a spiritual, political phenomenon...our capacity to care for and defend ourselves from state violence while also nurturing and being nurtured by individual selves and communities." A love that Assata Shakur and Erica Garner had; both captive maternals, Dr. James argues, who driven by a love for Black people, forged maroonage in their own right--"unrepentant insurrectionists, the unembraceable against whom the state exercises severe sanctions. A love Black political prisoners who are still being detained in US prisons today had, risking their lives and freedoms on behalf of Black liberation, a love beyond sentimentality, a love perhaps even for those who don't love us back (working on that). Do not miss out on all this free game and don't say we ain't never did nothing for you. “Despite our care, emotional intelligence and political determination, without collective strategies, our caretaking freezes or falters. Becoming trained maroons capable of coordinating war resistance deflects or defies predatory violence." --Dr. Joy James Support for Dr. Joy James: https://www.commonnotions.org/new-bones-abolition https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-pursuit-of-revolutionary-love-joy-james/1141549285 https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/contextualizing-angela-davis-9781350368637/ Intro Diddley: Patience Sings (@patience.sings)

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0:00.0	Black people.
0:02.0	Tell black history.
0:05.0	You don't know us from, you know, a whole of the wall,
0:10.0	and two cans of paint.
0:12.0	So I was just very excited. You were both very excited that you
0:15.4	agree to do this and to talk with us. Your work has been formative and I think of
0:21.3	myself is already a pretty radical person, but reading, particularly seeking
0:26.0	the beloved community and shadow boxing and really just all of your work has really let me know that
0:31.6	there is much more work for me to do within my own politic and
0:35.9	with my own radicalization that I'm constantly growing in so I really credit you
0:41.5	with a lot of that and giving me the language of war and war resistance.
0:46.3	I'm from Oakland, California, Erica is from Maryland, East Oakland, California.
0:51.5	So I have a lot of political influences
0:55.3	and just growing up, you know, in the hood and other point,
0:58.8	with the presence and the context of the Black Panther Party
1:01.4	and seeing Elaine Brown walking around all the time but there's still this push to be neoliberal and to assimilate even in a place like that.
1:11.0	So just reading your work has really,
1:13.9	it changed my life in a lot of ways.
1:15.7	It really has, so I really need to tell you.
1:18.9	Thank you.
1:20.1	Well, I would say, you know, it's all collective, right?
1:24.0	You know, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
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