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Hot and Bothered

Twilight

Hot and Bothered

Not Sorry Productions

Society & Culture, Feminism, Books, Relationships, Arts, Intersectionality

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Vanessa Zoltan and Hannah McGregor meet-up in Forks, Washington to play vampire baseball and record this week’s episode of Hot and Bothered, all about Twilight


This week we discuss chivalry, cultural appropriation, and our new theme: movies of 2008. We finish the episode by calling Dr. Joseph Crawford to talk to us about the history of vampires in paranormal romance fiction.


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0:00.0

Something I noticed when we were considering movies for this season is that in 2008, something

0:07.9

out of the ordinary happened. In 2007, of the top 20 box office hits of the year, the only movie

0:16.5

that could be argued as coded toward women would be enchanted, which I would argue is actually

0:24.1

more of a kid's movie. But in 2008, included in the top 20 box office hits are Twilight, Sex

0:33.7

in the City, and Mama Mia. Unlike the rom-coms of the previous years, these are all big budget films, based on

0:43.7

previously established intellectual properties like James Bond or Marvel, and were marketed

0:50.3

widely.

0:52.6

This 2008 bet paid off. Mama Mia beat James Bond in the box office. Young women came out

1:01.6

in droves to see Twilight more than once. Looking at the data, you would think that this would be a huge

1:10.7

tide change in how major

1:13.5

studios approached making movies for women.

1:17.8

And yet, when we look at 2009, things kind of look exactly the same as they did in 2007.

1:25.8

There were still rom-coms.

1:28.0

We got the proposal and the ugly truth,

1:30.8

but they're relegated back to their tropey, low-budget,

1:35.3

easily dismissable corner.

1:38.3

Hollywood has always made movies for women,

1:42.0

but they seem to treat male and female audiences the same for one year,

1:48.7

2008. And that's the theme for our mini-season. And our question for this mini-season is,

1:57.5

what was happening in 2008?

2:06.2

We know that a lot of it is kind of random timing.

2:11.9

Movies get greenlit shot approved and edited on all sorts of timelines.

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