Twilight x Girl Culture with Jackson Bird
Material Girls
Rehak Hannah
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2024
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Are you Team Edward or Team Jacob or some secret third option?**
Marcelle asks this question only at the very end of the episode, and you know why? Because there is so much more to discuss when it comes to Stephanie Meyer's Twilight. And who better to dig into this novel's plot and place in pop culture than Jackson Bird (he/him) who, over fifteen years ago, was a Twi-hard. If you frequent fan spaces, you might know Jackson through his previous work with Harry Potter Alliance or his very popular Youtube channel. Or perhaps you know him from guest spots on the podcast Harry Potter and the Sacred Text, his own (now retired) podcast Transmission, his 2017 Ted Talk (How to Talk and Listen to Transgender People), or his book, Sorted: Growing Up, Coming Out, and Finding My Place. Or maybe he's a new person to you, in which case, you're welcome — he rocks!
In this conversation, Marcelle, Hannah and Jack discuss what was going on in 2005 that primed Twilight for such wide success. They ask: Why were young readers so hungry for a character like Bella? What does the plot of the novel suggest about the reading appetite of millennial readers coming of age in an era defined by impossible beauty standards and purity politics? When we refuse to disregard the interests, passions and literary preferences of young people, what can we discover about one another, our culture and ourselves?
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**Team Bella!?!
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Material Girls is a show that aims to make sense of the zeitgeist through materialist critique* and critical theory! Each episode looks at a unique object of study (something popular now or from back in the day) and over the course of three distinct segments, Hannah and Marcelle apply their academic expertise to the topic at hand.
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| 0:00.0 | Oh I made a new mind, a new brain. |
| 0:15.0 | I want to take a ride on a mini train. |
| 0:19.0 | I want to take a ride on a mini train. |
| 0:22.0 | You can have it all. on a mini train Hello and welcome to material girls a scholarly podcast about popular culture. |
| 0:35.6 | I'm Hannah McGregor and I'm Marcel Kossman and joining us this week we have another |
| 0:42.4 | thrilling guest. |
| 0:44.4 | Oh my gosh, Jackson Bird pronouns he him is a multidisciplinary creator who writes and performs |
| 0:52.1 | original works on the stage on the page and online. |
| 0:56.4 | Many of his works aim to demystify the trans experience, |
| 1:00.4 | a selection of which can be found on his YouTube channel Jack is not a bird and his debut book |
| 1:08.2 | Sorted growing up coming out and finding my place |
| 1:11.8 | Currently Jackson can be found performing 30 plays in one hour |
| 1:17.1 | many Friday and Saturday nights in New York City with the experimental theater company, |
| 1:22.0 | The New York Neo Futurists. |
| 1:25.0 | Welcome, Jackson, it is so nice to have you with us. |
| 1:28.5 | Thank you so much for having me. |
| 1:30.1 | I'm very, very excited to be here after we all hung out over the summer at camp and yeah I'm also very |
| 1:37.0 | excited that you accepted the only pitch that I gave coach about what I wanted to talk about on this show. |
| 1:44.0 | We were like, yeah, we really want to talk to Jack. |
| 1:47.0 | Like what's he into? |
| 1:48.0 | Coach was like, twilight, end of list. |
| 1:51.0 | Here's how the conversation actually went. My cell went, oh twilight, I |
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