Twilight of Democracy with Anne Applebaum
The Marianne Williamson Podcast
Marianne Williamson
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 29 April 2021
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Author Anne Applebaum has chronicled the rise of European right wing politics for more than two decades. Weaving history with current events, Anne stresses how fragile our democracy really is and the importance of staying vigilant against the threat of authoritarianism. Also she makes clear in this interview that just because Trump is out of office, that doesn’t mean the United States is in the clear.
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| 0:00.0 | The idea that history is radically open, that anything can happen, upset some people, you know, the idea that we could, yes, we could, this could be the beginning of the end of American democracy. |
| 0:10.2 | We could be at the beginning of the end of American power. |
| 0:13.6 | I mean, there are many negative scenarios you can project into the future. |
| 0:18.1 | But I wanted to tell readers that there are positive scenarios as well and that it's in their |
| 0:24.1 | hands. |
| 0:38.8 | Hey, everybody. |
| 0:40.1 | Miriam Williamson here. |
| 0:41.9 | Thank you so much for being with me today. |
| 0:46.8 | I read an article recently by a man named Matthew McWilliams, |
| 0:50.2 | and he was talking about authoritarianism and democracy. |
| 0:51.8 | And listen to this. |
| 1:00.0 | He says, what I found is that approximately 18% of Americans are highly disposed to authoritarianism, according to their answers to four simple survey questions used by social scientists to estimate that disposition. |
| 1:08.0 | A further, 23% or so are just one step below them on the authoritarian scale. |
| 1:15.2 | This roughly 40% of Americans tend to favor authority, obedience, and uniformity over freedom, |
| 1:23.8 | independence, and diversity. I don't know about you, but I find that so scary, somewhat horrifying. |
| 1:32.1 | What is happening? What is this ideal of democracy that so many Americans are willing to |
| 1:37.9 | turn away from? What is it about an open society where everybody gets to think whatever they |
| 1:43.3 | want to think and share what |
| 1:45.1 | their opinion is and everybody gets and nobody has a monopoly on truth and that there are |
| 1:51.0 | diverse opinions and diverse ethnicities and diverse religions and diverse sex and sexuality. |
| 1:56.4 | You know, to some of us, that's exciting, that that really is the ideal of America that makes this whole thing so amazing. |
| 2:03.6 | To other people, that is what's scary. |
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