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This is the most clear evidence of something built into the budget of a show that doesn't translate into what I would call good.

If you came up with a hit TV show,

would you want your agent to make more money than you

while your budget gets cut to pay for that?

According to agent-turned producer Gavin Pallone,

that's exactly what can happen

thanks to what's known as the package fee.

This week, he and veteran TV writer-producer Rob Long

explain how these fees work and why

no one resists paying them. But first on the news banter, from X-Files to Heroes Reborn,

what's old is new again as the big broadcast networks roll out their fall schedules. Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

Music schedules. Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

I'm joined by my fellow banterer, Michael Schneider of TV Guide magazine. Hello, Michael.

Hello, Kim. Michael is, you're still in New York. I just left. We have both been in New York in the past several days for the big broadcast networks up front. They are presenting their fall schedules as usual, an old tradition that holds on, even though the model is sort of gradually disintegrating with accelerating speed, I should say. And I think we saw some big themes this year

as the networks went one after another, one of which is what is old is new again. Yeah, when you look

at the schedules, the Muppets are coming back to ABC. The X-Files is returning for six episodes

in mid-season on Fox. You have heroes now

reborn on NBC. Even Coach, a little remembered sitcom from the 90s, is coming back this time

on NBC. Yeah, let's just take a quick listen to The Muppets.

Excuse me, everybody, could I have your attention? I have some really great news. ABC wants to put on an all-new

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