Hi, everybody and welcome back to TV for real, a reality and scripted TV collide. My name is Mike Bloom, back from

the Thanksgiving holiday for those who celebrate. I am very thankful to be joined by my guest this week.

Unfortunately, Sasha will not be able to join us, but someone that is definitely able to make up for

it with their guest appearance.

I am thrilled.

Welcome for the first time to TV for real.

Ivy Gagoda.

What's up, Mike?

I'm so excited to be here.

I didn't even know.

Okay, full disclosure, I don't know that much about this podcast,

but I didn't even know that I was playing in for Sasha's shoes.

And I'm like intimidated, but I'm like, I'm short, I'm Jewish.

I think we'll make it work.

Exactly.

Listen, you're basically like two thirds of the way there.

Yeah, there's like a critical piece that I'm missing, but that that's fine.

It'll be, most of the Venn diagram is filled out.

It's like that, uh, I mean, you're, you're the one with the doctors you can tell me like and there's a there's an and with the

middle and there's like the neither nor oh my god that's that's beyond the ven diagram like there's some

sort of logical phrase that I'm forgetting that described to it okay I'm not going to lie my PhD

did not include enough then diagrams for that level of conversation. But okay, that's fine.

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