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I do think that for women in particular who are living pretty difficult lives,

who have left their homes, who are living with conflict, who can't leave their homes in some cases,

it does matter to do something that brings a bit of pride and joy and relief and meditation.

It is different than just getting a paycheck, I think.

I think that's part of the sort of magic, the alchemy of jewelry is that, you know,

you take a flat sheet of metal and you, with your two hands and the tools you have,

can transform that into something

the polish, the reflection, and if you set a stone and within a few days you can be wearing

something that you've created out of that flat sheet of metal and that's kind of magic really.

Welcome to If Jewels Could Talk. I'm Carol Walton, the voice of jewelry, an author, broadcaster,

and the woman who initiated the role of Jewelry editor at magazines like Tatella and British Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone.

For people who do like jewelry, for people who don't realize they like jewelry,

and anyone intrigued by fascinating facts, new ideas

and forgotten histories. So please join me as I tell sparkly tales meeting all sorts of people

delving into four centuries of jewelry culture and investigate what's happening now.

So welcome to if jewels could talk.

I'm very happy to talk about a very important initiative this morning that's happening for women in different areas of conflict.

And I'm joined by Pippa Small, jewelry designer, anthropologist, activist,

traveler. I mean, she's so many things.

She's also the only person I'm going to allow on the podcast to make a noise.

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