Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's The Wall Builder Show, taken on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective.

Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. And as we begin our week, kind of picking up where we left off last week.

Of course, the Charlie

Kirk effect continues. And man, ministries are seeing just tremendous growth. People, churches are

full. People are wanting to get involved and taking action. I mean, it's just a really exciting time.

And certainly no time to sit back. It's time to press the gas and move forward. But later in the

program, we got Andrew Wulmeck with us, one of our friends that has an amazing ministry and, of course,

Karras Bible College, and they do a great government program there that David and Tim,

you guys basically designed. And I've met so many graduates from that around the country that

became Constitution coaches for us or doing you know, or doing other things in

the culture. And they really got it from having that third year at Carus going through the

practical school of government. So really good stuff out there at Caris. Yeah, Andrew Womwe has been a

great Bible teacher for a lot of years. Someone who, I think we probably resonated with in a lot of levels. He is a kind of

cowboy at heart in a lot of ways. And so, Dad, I know that a lot of, some of our favorite

pastors have at times tended to be more of the cowboy pastors because cowboy pastors were so often just so

practical and the gospel wasn't theoretical like no here's what the bible says here's how it applies

here's what you do with it and andrew wilmick was one of those guys who helped the bible be so

practical uh and guys the reason we wanted to have them on the program is from his ministry, they put out an email.

It was a response to what happened with the Charlie Kirk Memorial.

Rick, you know, we talked with you and Kara when y'all were literally driving away from the

memorial, talked about your experience. And we had a lot of friends,

a lot of friends who were at the memorial. Dad, you and I watched the memorial. Largely, it was

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