Turning Democrats Into Fighters (with Eugene Daniels, Rick Wilson, April Ryan & Jason Johnson)

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.8 • 3.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele is joined by some of his favorite past guests for a special live stream barbershop episode to wrap up the podcast before it goes on hiatus.

Eugene Daniels, Rick Wilson, April Ryan and Jason Johnson join Michael to discuss whether Elon Musk is ACTUALLY leaving the White House, the coverups to keep Biden in the 2024 race, how to turn Democrats into fighters and what kind of Democratic leadership we need right now. Plus, Michael and his guests take questions from the live audience.

Catch Michael and a new roundup of guests for a final part II of the barbershop livestream next Tuesday, June 10th at 10amET on The Bulwark's YouTube page.

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Michael Steel podcast. You know, guys, this is something really special for me, because I started this podcast in 2018. And next week, this version of my podcast will be coming to a close, at least for a little bit, as I shift my focus to hosting the weeknight with my friends Alicia Menendez and Simone Sanders Townsend on MSNBC.
0:30.6	So to wrap up this podcast, I wanted to do something kind of special. As you guys know, I love the barbershop concept where you get a whole
0:38.0	lot of folks in the room of y'all just talking and flapping and jabbing and having a good time.
0:42.3	Well, I got some folks that I wanted to have a good time with over the next two weeks.
0:47.7	And so I'm really excited about bringing on some of my favorite past guests for a big
0:53.6	live stream barbershop rap party to discuss
0:56.8	current events. What could possibly go right? Right. Anyway, I'm joined by four guests today.
1:04.2	Eugene Daniels, MSNBC senior Washington correspondent and co-host of MSNBC's The Weekend from 7 to 10 a.m. Eastern on Saturdays and Sunday mornings. Yeah, he up early.
1:16.9	He up early. Rick Wilson will be joining us. His plane is landing and he's going to get in space with us.
1:25.4	He's a Republican political strategist, ad maker, co-founder of the Lincoln Project,
1:29.3	bestselling author and host of both the Lincoln Project
1:33.3	podcast and the Enemies List podcast.
1:35.3	Like I said, he's going to be joining, folks will be coming in and out today,
1:38.3	so it's a lot of fun.
1:39.3	My girl, my sister from Bemore, April Ryan,
1:43.3	the longest serving black white House correspondent in history.
1:48.2	MSNBC political analyst, D.C. Bureau Chief for Black Press USA, host of the team with April Ryan and the contrarian.
1:58.1	Yes, she, trust me, folks. This is the contrarian. Dr. Jason
2:04.7	Dawson, this is my boy. This one is smartest brothers out there. He is professor,
2:12.1	the School of Global Journalism and Communication at the Morgan State University of Baltimore,
2:18.3	political contributor at MSNBC, you see him hosting from time to time on a number of shows.
2:23.3	And he's also on the Grio and host of the Slate podcast, a word with Jason Johnson.
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