Hi guys, Nancy Grace here. Thanks for being with us. With me, if I long time friend and

colleague, defensive honey Renee Rockwell, it was known as the Queen of Joe. I don't know

if I would like that name Renee, but sadly, that is your modicers, Queen of Joe. Not

that you ever used to, but you sure represent a lot of dope clients. Renee, let me tell you

where I am. I'm in the name of the man and I am driving at home. It's about a five hour

drive from the Colleton County Fort House, where the verdict, again, Alex Nordog has just

been handed down in synopsy of walking two life sentences to run consecutively Renee.

I hate it without parole sentence, but you know what? I think he should get out of jail

when Maggie and Paul can get out of their conference. When do you think that will be anytime

soon? Well, I have my thoughts about the whole case and whether or not I felt like

he did it or not. But that's not for a tough job. The jury already handed down the verdict

and he placed himself at the scene of the crime two minutes before the shooting because

his voice was caught on a video, always making a video of a pet dog to send to a lady

vet. But I want to talk to you about something other than the jury verdict because the jury

is rendered their verdict. That feeling after you finish the trial, because I can tell you

the lead lawyer, Frank Waters, lost 15 pounds hearing the trial. He was pale, gawnt,

status under his eyes. I mean, it takes a toll Renee. It does, Nancy, do you ever recall

getting anything else done while you're on trial, even while you were waiting for the

jury? You don't turn your attention to anything else. It's almost like you're sending energy

to the jurors. I can't get a thing done. I would let bills go by. Everything would pile

up. I remember after one trial when they leaving the courtroom going back across the bridge

to the courthouse where my office was. I went in my office. The whole time I was on trial,

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