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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Turkeys, Novels and Wild Appalachia with David Joy

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Outdoors, Wilderness, Sports, Fishing, Outdoor, Hunting, Sports & Recreation

4.6853 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Summary

“[David Joy]is a man who sees his homeplace clearly and who writes like his hand was touched by God.” — The New York Times

Novelist and essayist David Joy is a tall, lean and red-bearded denizen of the hollers, mountain tops and ridges of Jackson County, North Carolina. He is an obsessive turkey, deer and squirrel hunter, a fisherman who wrote his first published book on fly fishing but who is equally at home running live baits for big flathead catfish on Piedmont rivers. He is on the very short list of great American fiction writers and essayists who hunt and fish and speak for public lands and conservation as naturally as they breathe or write.

This podcast was recorded at David’s cabin near Little Canada, North Carolina, after a long hike in the Pisgah National Forest to scout new hunting country, in the good company of David’s little feist dog, Edie Munster. Listeners who love David’s stark and hyper-realistic style of writing, and his oft-times harrowing and unsettling novels, will love when Hal and David talk writing and story after a deep dive on turkey calls and turkey hunting. More at https://david-joy.com/ and be sure to read the profile of David in the spring 2025 issue of BHA's Backcountry Journal. 

 

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Transcript

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There is more understanding of kind of rural economic collapse and what people who live in that

0:09.1

are thinking, doing, believe in understanding than there is in all the news or in all the

0:15.6

analysis of rural economic problems in America.

0:19.2

You could just read David Joy.

0:20.6

You see these people and they're walking down a ridge and they stop and they yell.

0:24.6

They walk 100 yards, they stop, they yelp. They walk 100 yards, they stop, they yelp.

0:28.6

I've never seen a turkey do that in my life. You need to think of it as a conversation.

0:34.6

And it's a conversation that those birds are having, you know, every day. She could

0:40.6

remember ways that they phrased things and how it was different. And when she moved to Paris,

0:46.3

she remembers saying one of them and someone basically equating it to stupidity, right? You know,

0:52.7

she was speaking in this way that all her family had done.

0:56.5

What I told her was I said, I said, you have to say it. Like, you have to continue to say it.

1:03.7

I said, it is central to your identity and to who you are. Right. And when I said that, she started

1:09.3

crying. And it had never crossed her mind how important it was to who she was and where

1:16.1

she came from.

1:17.8

Hey, everybody.

1:19.0

It's Hal Herring, Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Podcast and Blast.

1:22.7

Thanks for being here.

1:24.4

Hey, I am proud to announce we have a new sponsor for our podcast, and that is

1:29.9

silencer central. If you are involved in hunting and shooting or both, you are probably looking

1:37.4

at owning or dreaming of owning a silencer suppressor, the same thing for your firearm.

1:45.1

I've got my first one a couple years ago.

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