Welcome to Turkey Talk, a special edition from Clay and Buck. Conversation comebacks for the holidays.

Producer Allie here. If you were with us last week for Turkey Talk Part 1, you heard Clay and Buck, along with some of our other podcast hosts, Carol, Tudor, and

MK, talk about navigating Thanksgiving after a Trump win. Well, that's not the only thing people

are going to be talking about at Thanksgiving this year. If you've got a college age kid,

and depending on where they go to school, brace yourself for some possible incoming, especially if they go

to Columbia University. Good luck getting through the appetizers without a possible pilgrim

dissing, which is why I thought this was the perfect time to dig into the Clay and Buck archives

and revisit some of their great conversations, like this one from this past Columbus Day.

I am here in studio with my man Clay in NYC.

And yes, there is still a Columbus statue near here in Columbus Circle.

They have not been able to tear it down yet.

Although, Clay, you might have seen St. John's University, the largest Catholic

university in the state of New York, has apparently canceled Columbus Day celebration.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Did you know it was Columbus Day when you woke up this morning?

I mean, yeah, yesterday, because I love talking about the truth of what an indigenous

people's day history celebration would mean.

I like to discuss with people that the Aztecs were a massive empire, as were the Mayans,

built atop slavery and human sacrifice and the mutilation and torture of your enemies,

and that we don't know that much more about the native peoples in this country because they had neither the wheel nor written language

nor had they even discovered animal husbandry as in we had to give them horses or rather the

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