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All The Smoke

Tupac’s “Brenda’s Got a Baby” Was REAL - and We Found Him (EXCLUSIVE)

All The Smoke

The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

Basketball, Society & Culture, Sports

4.87.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Tupac like you’ve NEVER heard before.

New York Times bestselling author Jeff Pearlman discusses his groundbreaking biography Only God Can Judge Me, the most in-depth look ever at Tupac Shakur — his rise through West Coast hip-hop to his time at Death Row Records, movies like Juice and Poetic Justice, and the myths that still surround his murder.

In an ALL THE SMOKE exclusive, we’re also joined by Davonn Hodge, the real-life baby from Tupac’s iconic song “Brenda’s Got a Baby.” For the first time, he shares his story and how his life connects to one of the most powerful songs in rap history

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:05.5

From NBA champion, Stefan Curry, comes shot ready, a powerful never-before-seen look at the mindset that changed the game.

0:13.1

I fell in love with the grind. You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around.

0:20.0

Success is not an accident.

0:21.8

I'm passing the ball to you.

0:23.8

Let's go.

0:24.7

Steph Curry redefined basketball.

0:26.5

Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed.

0:28.9

Order your copy of the New York Times bestseller shot ready today at stephencurriebook.com.

0:34.5

Welcome back, season two of Unplugged.

1:13.0

Man, it's been a good offseason. We needed to refresh. But we got a great one today to kick season two off. Obviously, with the NBA season right around the corner, we will touch on that, this show. But first, we are joined by New York Times bestseller, Jeff Pearlman and Davon Hodge. Now, you're probably asking who Davon Hodge is. And once we start talking, you'll know exactly who he is. But let's get to it, Jeff. Only God can judge me. Tell us about that book. And when is it out? Comes out October 21st, we can get everywhere now. It's a biography of Tupac Shakur, worked on it for three years, interviewed 650 people, dove deep, deep, deep.

1:14.3

It's kind of the book I always dreamed of writing.

1:16.4

I've been a sports writer my whole life.

1:18.3

It's my first non-sports book.

1:20.2

And that's what led me to Devon, which is this incredible journey I went on.

1:24.5

And he was probably the most incredible part of it.

1:26.1

Well, speak to us because again, I want the world to know who he is and once he starts

1:30.9

telling you who he is, you'll understand why.

1:33.0

Okay, so basically, you're obviously a Tupac diehard.

1:37.0

Brenda's got a baby to me is a really important song in the Tupac.

1:40.8

Absolutely.

1:41.8

It kind of sent him on his way after same song with Digital Underground.

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