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From New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro.

This is The Daily.

Today, as expected, the president's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, has been indicted.

The first indictment in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

But another surprise indictment may tell a more meaningful story about what the Trump

campaign knew about Russian interference in the election and when it knew it.

It's Tuesday, October 31st.

Matapuzo, tell me about George Poppinopoulos.

Who is this guy before he comes into contact with the Trump team?

He was a research fellow at the Hudson Institute, which is a conservative thing tank in town.

He was not a well-established foreign policy expert in Washington by any stretch.

I mean, he was 30 years old when he joined the campaign.

And in a city where you have a ton of thing tanks and a ton of experts, he wasn't somebody

who stood out.

And what does Poppinopoulos understand to be his role and mission on the Trump team when

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