Tuesday, November 4, 2025
The Briefing with Albert Mohler
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
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🗓️ 4 November 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
On today’s edition of The Briefing, Dr. Mohler discusses the crazy story of a “new mother” who was arrested for felony charges after trying to have her 15th baby by IVF, respecting creation order in the procurement of children, and the Christian paradox of crime.
Part I (00:14 – 16:48)
This is Crazy: A 65-Year-Old “New Mother” Arrested for Felony Charges After Trying to Have 15th Baby by IVF
- She Was Ready to Have Her 15th Child. Then Came the Felony Charges. by The New York Times (David Gauvey Herbert)
When Reproductive Technologies Violate Creation Order: Christians Cannot Defy Creation Order to Procure Children
Part III (21:36 – 26:19)
The Christian Paradox of Crime: Louvre Thieves Turn Out to Be a Married Couple with Children Who Were Caught Based on DNA Evidence
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| 0:00.0 | It's Tuesday, November 4, 2025. I'm Albert Moller, and this is the briefing, a daily analysis of news and events from a Christian worldview. |
| 0:13.7 | We're going to be talking about several related issues today, and they're all going to come back to forms of revolt against creation order when it comes to having |
| 0:22.1 | children. The first one, well, let's just get to the headline, quote, she was ready to have her |
| 0:26.8 | 15th child, then came the felony charges. That's a major story that appeared just in the last |
| 0:32.8 | couple of days in the New York Times, the articles by David Govey Herbert. And it begins this way, quote, |
| 0:38.1 | Mary Beth Lewis was shopping for groceries at her local Walmart in suburban Buffalo when she got the |
| 0:42.8 | word. Her surrogate had just been induced. She rushed home and packed a bag for her new twins, |
| 0:48.3 | a book for baby footprints, matching outfits and beanies, and blankets embroidered with their names. |
| 0:53.1 | Then she jumped back in the car and raced down Interstate 390, that's in New York State, |
| 0:58.7 | to a small hospital 130 miles away in a rural corner of the state. |
| 1:03.9 | The article continues, when Mary Beth arrived at the maternity ward, she found her surrogate |
| 1:07.9 | in a recovery room, tired but happy after a quick delivery. She asked to see the |
| 1:12.3 | twins, and a nurse went to go find them. But before she returned, a different woman dressed in scrubs appeared |
| 1:17.9 | and got in Marybeth's face. What you did was terrible, the woman said. You will never see these babies. |
| 1:23.7 | Marybeth tried to talk to her, but the woman refused to listen. A voice over the loudspeaker announced the visiting hours were over, and that means you, the woman said. |
| 1:32.2 | Okay, so what's in the background here? |
| 1:34.9 | Well, we have a woman who is herself an OBGYN nurse by training, and she is now well into her late 60s, |
| 1:41.7 | and she was having babies, well, just a few years ago. |
| 1:45.5 | She is the mother, at least in terms of being the birth mother, of 13 children, |
| 1:50.6 | and they range in all sorts of ages. |
| 1:52.9 | The story begins by telling us that this woman, quote, loves children. |
| 1:55.9 | She always has. |
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