It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

Good morning, everyone.

So you've been hearing in the news coverage here and in your other feeds about the many things President Trump has been doing

during his first 24 hours or so in office. We're not going to start with a long intro that repeats

the list or the most inflammatory clips, but obviously we now have pardons or get out of jail

free cards known as commutations for even the most violent January 6th

convicts. We have border and energy emergency declarations with all kinds of implications and more.

We'll dive into some specifics as we go. But we will lead with kind of a day two question.

Now that Trump is often running as aggressively as promised,

what's the right thing for Democrats to do or anyone else who's upset by these things? What to

support, because after all, Trump ran on many of these things and he won the election, what to

oppose, even if they're popular, because people just think they're bad for others,

when to call him a fascist or not, what to propose of their own.

And how to oppose what they do oppose?

So many news articles have noted there is no resistance 2.0 in the mode of, say, the Women's March that greeted Trump

immediately upon the start of his first term. So with us for this are two former Barack Obama aides

who launched the popular podcast Pod Save America after Trump was elected the first time. They are John Lovett and John

Favreau. John Favreau was director of speechwriting for President Obama and also hosted the podcast

The Wilderness. John Lovett was a speechwriter for Obama, Hillary Clinton as a senator,

and Clinton as a 2008 presidential candidate. He also hosts the podcast, Love It or Leave It,

and he is also a comedian and producer

who co-created the TV sitcom's 1600 Penn,

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