From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbarale. This is the Daily.

Today, Venice, Wala thought its loudest political prisoner had finally been silenced.

Only he had part two of the story.

It's Tuesday, March 13th.

So for the past six or seven months, a couple of few times a week, I will sit down at my laptop and open up a video chat service that we believe is secure.

And I will create a room, private room, that only Leolope as an eye can access.

And I wait for a few minutes and at a certain point, the screen kind of flickers.

Pixelation starts to swirl around and...

I can't see you. You can't. You're not missing much.

After a minute or two, I can see him and we start talking.

Do you think today would be an okay day to go back to your prison experience and tell me some more...

Yeah, we don't have much time today.

Okay. But we should just go straight into that if you wish.

Well, how risky is Leo's decision to talk to you?

Oh, it was always risky.

I mean, I mean, gel because of free speech. I mean gel because of expressing my ideas.

Remember, Leolope is under house arrest serving a 14-year sentence.

Will Hilton writes for the Times magazine.

And the government that's imprisoning him has said in the clearest possible terms,

he is absolutely prohibited to speak publicly.

And if he does so, he will be punished in a greater way than he ever has been before.

Is the white van there right now, by the way?

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