Tuesday - December 9, 2025
The Dividend Cafe
The Dividend Cafe - The Bahnsen Group
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🗓️ 9 December 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Summary
Market Recap and Insights on Upcoming Fed Decisions
In this episode of Dividend Cafe, Brian Szytel from The Bahnsen Group discusses the market activity on December 9th, highlighting slight declines in both the stock and bond markets. He reviews the latest economic indicators, including the NFIB Small Business Optimism Index and the JOLTS job openings report. Szytel also provides insights into the upcoming Federal Reserve FOMC meeting, the potential interest rate changes, and the implications for the labor market. Additionally, he touches on the investment potential in the utility sector and the importance of selecting the right companies within high-growth sectors like AI, using historical examples from the natural gas fracking industry and fiber optics. The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of bottom-up investment fundamentals and dividend reliability.
00:00 Welcome to Dividend Cafe
00:16 Market Overview: Stocks and Bonds
00:48 Fed's Interest Rate Decision
01:51 Economic Data Insights
03:10 Labor Market Analysis
04:17 Interest Rates and Balance Sheet
04:50 Investment in Utilities
06:16 Investment Risks and Strategies
08:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Dividend Cafe weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio and dividends in your understanding of economic life. |
| 0:11.6 | Good evening and welcome back to Dividend Cafe. This is Tuesday, December the 9th. Brian Saitel with you here on a fresh week in our Newport Beach, California headquarters here at the Bonson Group. |
| 0:23.6 | And today was a bit of a down day in the stock market. |
| 0:27.2 | We had a down day in the bond market slightly as well, but marginally so. |
| 0:30.7 | The Dow ended up closing off on the day, 179 points, which these days equals about a third of a percent. |
| 0:37.2 | S&P was basically flat, and the |
| 0:39.0 | NASDAQ was slightly higher by about 13 basis points. So slightly higher on some tech stocks. |
| 0:45.2 | Everything else was marginally down. Bon market was slightly off yields on tens, dropped about two |
| 0:50.0 | basis points, so we're at 418. Basically, most things at least coming out right now are just |
| 0:55.3 | dependent on what's going to happen tomorrow. Not so much on the interest rate decision from the |
| 0:59.6 | FOMC because there's a 90% chance they're going to cut 25 basis points. So that's pretty priced |
| 1:05.4 | in. But the press conference afterwards is always where the fireworks are, and that's where |
| 1:09.8 | most people will be watching and paying attention to what they actually say about things. Remember, |
| 1:14.6 | the government was shut down for over a month, and so a lot of the data was delayed. A lot of it |
| 1:19.9 | really just became irrelevant as it's coming out. The fresh data that we're getting has been |
| 1:24.4 | somewhat mixed. We've seen both softness and strength in the labor market and similarly in some of the services and manufacturing reports as well. So there's a lot |
| 1:33.5 | to digest right now. And I know the market will be looking to what Powell says. Also, you've got a |
| 1:39.2 | replacement FOMC president coming in as well in May of next year. So there's a good amount going on the |
| 1:45.4 | interest rate side. I wrote about that, at least on the balance sheet, a little bit about that |
| 1:49.6 | last week. We closed essentially at the lows on the stock market and the only two pieces of data |
| 1:55.6 | that were out today. One of them was the NFIB Small Business Optimism Index. This is a survey that comes out, gives you a pulse at least on small businesses. Remember, that's a majority of the market in the U.S. A little bit higher than expected, so we've got a 99 number versus a 98 figure. What does that mean? Not much, frankly. Those things tend to be backward looking, in my opinion. So a lagging indicator versus versus a leading and just take it for what it's worth a period of time |
| 2:21.6 | really that it's responding to was a bit of a strange one I guess with |
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