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The Daily

Tuesday, Aug. 22, 2017

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2017

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Derek Black left the white nationalist movement that he had been poised to help lead, betraying his father, a former grand master of the Ku Klux Klan. Today, we talk with him about the events of the past year. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbar. This is the deal.

0:08.6

Today, Derek Black left the white nationalist movement.

0:12.6

He was poised to help me, betraying his family and friends in the process.

0:18.0

After leaving, he came to see it as a fringe movie on the margins and

0:23.6

reprehensible to most Americans, which is why he has been shocked by the events of the past couple.

0:30.6

It's Tuesday, August 20th.

0:38.6

Yeah, I was born into one of the most prominent white nationalist families in the country.

0:44.6

Wow.

0:45.6

My Godfather, for a lack of any other words, David Duke, who was married to my mother when before I was born.

0:57.6

And then my father started the largest white nationalist website, Stormfri.

1:02.6

The first white nationalist website on the internet, and it has been the largest one ever since.

1:09.6

So I grew up with the leadership of the white nationalist movement all coming over to the house.

1:15.6

And when I got older, we'd go to conferences.

1:18.6

And it was my life.

1:23.6

Derek Black grew up in West Palm Beach, Florida, across the water from the President's Mar-a-Lago mansion.

1:29.6

And he used to drive past it almost every day in a red pickup truck with a Confederate flag sticker on the back window.

1:37.6

His father is Don Black, once a grand wizard of the KKK.

1:43.6

It sounds like what you're describing is that you're kind of the first child of American white nationalism.

1:52.6

I mean, I did. I knew everybody. I knew everybody who was involved in it.

1:57.6

And I knew all the different organizations.

1:59.6

And I expected that it would be my life's work to try to advance this.

2:05.6

I thought it was the right thing.

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