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The Dividend Cafe

Tuesday - April 15, 2025

The Dividend Cafe

The Dividend Cafe - The Bahnsen Group

Business, Dividend Growth Investing, Monetary Policy, Investing, Retirement Planning, Wealth Management, Macro Economics, Estate Planning

4.9572 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Market Analysis Post-Tax Deadline and Economic Insights

In this episode of Dividend Cafe, Brian Szytel provides a comprehensive market analysis for Tuesday, April 15th. Key topics include the minor decline in major indices (DOW, S&P, NASDAQ), stable 10-year treasury yields, stalled negotiations between the EU and US on trade, and slight changes in US import prices for March. Brian also discusses the New York Fed Empire State Manufacturing Index and its better-than-expected, though still negative, April results. Additional commentary covers the effect of tariffs on import prices, the dollar and bond market trends, and the potential resumption of quantitative easing. The discussion concludes with an in-depth look at cyclical versus structural recessions, emphasizing the current structural volatility and its real impact on the economy.

00:00 Introduction and Market Overview

01:09 Economic Indicators and Market Reactions

01:56 Discussion on Dollar and Bonds

03:03 Quantitative Easing and Market Expectations

04:01 Recessions: Cyclical vs Structural

05:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dividend Cafe weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio and dividends in your understanding of economic life.

0:10.0

Welcome to Dividend Cafe. This is Tuesday, April the 15th, and you've done it and made it through tax filing deadline. So good job with that. I know we had a lot in our play at the Bonson Group, especially with TBG tax, working extra hours and making it all happen. So I'm very thankful for all the work that they did. But Brian Saitel with you here on a small giveback day in markets, but honestly not much. The Dow was down one-third of a percent,

0:39.5

S&P was down 15 bases points, NASDAQ was flat. So we had an up day yesterday and basically

0:47.0

a sideways slightly negative today. Ten-year treasury, not much changed, went down four basis points

0:52.5

at 433. So fairly benign day overall.

0:55.6

There was an upmarket actually in the morning.

0:58.0

We lost a little bit of traction when some of the negotiations between the EU and the U.S. on trade

1:04.2

seemed to have stalled or made less progress than otherwise would have been hoped for.

1:09.6

Other than that, though, it was just fine. On the economic calendar, we had U.S. import prices, and this is a funny headline because it's a little delayed. This is for March, but they were down one-tenth of a percent for March while they were up two-tenths of a percent the month before. And this is right when it's a little backward looking, in other words.

1:27.8

So Trump has come out with tariffs, which would, of course, affect input prices. And they were down in

1:33.2

March, coincidentally, to start this off. We also had a manufacturing index. This is the New York

1:38.7

Fed Empire State Manufacturing Index. Was better than expected, although still negative. but we were expecting a negative 14.5.

1:46.4

We got negative 8 for the month of April. So some pretty positive things on manufacturing

1:51.1

there. There were comments in there really about the dollar in bonds. And the headlines really

1:56.1

grab a hold of this stuff. I had just literally got off a phone call with a great client of mine and friend

2:01.5

about the same subject. When you're looking at the dollar being down small amount or fixed

2:07.8

income being down and yields up, now those two things are usually reverse correlated. So as rates

2:13.4

go up, usually currencies get stronger, not weaker. So there's some anomalies happening there.

2:18.1

But number one, the moves really aren't that big. And then number two, the dollar's up a percent

2:22.1

here in two trading days. If you looked at a five-year chart of the dollar, it's actually still

2:26.2

higher. And if you looked at the 20 or 30-year chart, it essentially trades it sideways because

2:31.3

the rest of the world is pegging currency around it.

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