Tucker Stopped Believing in Lines | Interview: Jason Zengerle

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.7 • 6.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

When Captain Jonah Goldberg goes missing during his icy search for the Northwest Passage, first mate Steve Hayes commandeers The HMS Remnant and steers her into troubled waters. Joined by The Dispatch's John McCormack, Steve invites aboard journalist Jason Zengerle to discuss his new book on the fascinating and unnerving career of Tucker Carlson. Together, the trio cover the creation of The Daily Caller, Tucker’s Trump-fueled comeback at Fox, and his ultimate embrace of Nick Fuentes and the extreme right. Shownotes:—Hated by All the Right People: Tucker Carlson and the Unraveling of the Conservative Mind—John McCormack for The Dispatch: “What Happened to Tucker Carlson?”—Steve’s review of Hated by All the Right People—CPAC: Tucker Carlson Tries to Defend the New York Times, Gets Booed—Tucker talking to the firefighters—Patriot Purge—Steve’s book: Cheney: The Untold Story of America's Most Powerful and Controversial Vice President The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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