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bit about 2028 Republican nomination politics, and yeah, I know. It's early. It's way early.

And also, Trump is probably going to run. But the most interesting part of

this conversation is something that I think a lot of people are overlooking, which is that in

order for J.D. Vance to get the brass ring, he's going to have to climb over Don Jr.

I got a lot of thoughts about that.

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I want to start with a piece that Jonathan wrote last week

because it scratched two of my itches,

which is Republican politics and professional wrestling. So JVL, why don't you talk about Jady

Vance, for people who haven't read it, J.D. Vance, the honky tonk man and Hulk Hogan,

I'll let you go there, and then I'll broaden it out. And I'll recommend recommend people if you have not read the whole piece you need to it is it is one of the

it's a piece that is stuck with me and will continue to stick with me because it is a

even in the category of JBL's general work which I think is very high I personally think

it was one of the more insightful pieces I've read from him, and he's generally insightful. Go ahead, John. Yeah. So, uh, you know, our politics may not line up exactly, although I suspect we got like 90% overlap. I think that's right. Our life views are 100%. 100%. 100% of life. And where we are in our lives. Where we are in our lives, the backgrounds we come up

through with our cultural touchstones, our views of parenthood and sport. Like Chris and I are,

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