Tucker Carlson Looked Her in the Eyes and Lied
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The Bulwark
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 4 May 2026
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
Will Saletan breaks down Tucker Carlson’s series of interviews with the New York Times and shows why his “apology tour” doesn’t hold up. From flat-out denials caught on tape to wild swings between moral outrage and shrugging off atrocities, the pattern is the story: in one moment he sounds reasonable, in the next he’s saying the exact opposite.
Read Lulu Garcia-Navarro's article on Tucker Carlson in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/02/magazine/tucker-carlson-interview-trump-iran.html
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Will Salatant from The Bullwork. So this weekend, the New York Times posted a two-hour |
| 0:06.1 | interview. It's actually a two-part interview with Tucker Carlson. It's part of his |
| 0:11.1 | apology tour. So he's apologizing for having supported Donald Trump because Trump promised |
| 0:18.7 | not to get us into wars and then he got us into a war, right? |
| 0:24.2 | And there are moments in this interview when Carlson seems totally sincere. He seems like he's making a lot of |
| 0:31.1 | sense. And what I want to show you is why you can't trust those moments and you can't trust him. |
| 0:38.4 | So let's start with a part of the interview where Carlson talks about whether Trump is the |
| 0:45.1 | antichrist. |
| 0:46.0 | Okay, so this is weird, but I want to show you this part because Carlson denies that he said |
| 0:52.5 | something and then the Times plays video of him saying it. |
| 0:57.8 | Watch. |
| 0:58.3 | And then on a recent show, you went further saying, here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, |
| 1:03.1 | mocking the god of gods and exulting himself above them. |
| 1:06.1 | Could this be the Antichrist? |
| 1:08.5 | I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist? |
| 1:11.3 | Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking the God of gods, and exalting |
| 1:18.3 | himself above them. |
| 1:20.3 | Could this be the Antichrist? |
| 1:22.9 | Well, who knows? |
| 1:25.3 | I don't know where that comes from, but I know that those words never left my lips because I'm not sure I fully understand what the Antichrist is. |
| 1:32.4 | Those words never left my lips, he says. |
| 1:35.5 | But you saw them, right? |
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