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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

TU98: Dive Deeper into a Model of Attachment Science (the DMM) by Ann Kelley & Sue Marriott

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Dive deeper into this new (to us) model of interpreting attachment science and discover how to apply it into your daily life. Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP and Ann Kelley PhD have fun breaking down the last two episodes where Dr. Patricia Crittenden so generously shared her model called the Dynamic Maturational Model (DMM). Focus is on personal and clinical importance in this last of a 3-part series on the DMM. Before we begin: A’s (Red in the DMM)=Historically referred to as Blue on TU B’s (Blue in the DMM)=Historically referred to as Green on TU C’s (Green in the DMM)=Historically referred to as Red on TU AC’s = Historically referred to Tie Dye on TU **Note: We know the colors may be a bit confusing, but it is important to us that you receive information as Dr Crittenden has published it. It is by happenstance that our colors are the same (with the exception of tie dye), but they represent different thinking and behavioral patterns. When we refer to color in the episodes and in the show notes, we are referring to the colors we have historically used on the TU podcast and the letters and self-protective strategies of the DMM. This is only in order to maintain consistency and make the information more easily understood by our listeners. However, the colors as shown in the slides and as listed above, are the way Dr Crittenden uses them in her fantastic work! Brief Hierarchy of Attachment Theory: There’s a lot of similarity between the more familiar Mary Main et al ABC-D model of attachment and the Patricia Crittenden’s DMM interpretation of attachment, but there are also some very important differences. What’s in A Name? Dynamic Maturational Model (DMM) – potentially intimidating mouthful, BUT let’s break it down What it means: Sue and Ann share their take on Dr Crittenden’s walk through the developmental process that happens in attachment from infancy to adulthood. (Listen to Episode 96 and Episode 97). As we mature into different stages of our life, our needs and self-protective strategies (what the DMM helps us learn) we use change accordingly. The beautiful thing about the DMM is the way it incorporates culture, sexuality, key relationships, and danger/safety into the attachment mix. Speaking of safety…. One key difference between the DMM and traditional attachment models is the emphasis on SAFETY rather than SECURITY. According to the DMM: -attachment is about the dyadic relationship in danger, it does not just live in the person -we take in information from the environment (parent in infancy) and shift this into “behaviors” or self-protective strategies. -these strategies develop to protect us. They are our brain’s way of helping us reduce danger and increase connectedness by creating closeness, proximity, and safety. Information Processing -It’s physiological. There are 3 systems: Somatic: what does our body feel…our heart, our stomach feel Cognitive: how we process the information, how do we make meaning Emotional: what’s coming up Bottom line, we can learn from our body. They are connected but not hierarchical. Security = Integration of all 3 of these info systems (Therapist Uncensored’s model ie. getting to the green) The Attachment Spectrum As you move out on the spectrum, (in the DMM, it’s a circle, which is also really cool) we begin to inhibit or exaggerate information based on the response in our environment/the response of our caregivers. We will tend to lean Blue or Red or Tie Dye (check out episodes 59, 60, 61 for more detailed info on each color). NOTE: These colors are Ann and Sue’s Attachment & Regulation Spectrum, not colors from the DMM. It is NOT conscious and forms in the first 2 years via Neuroception. Neuroception (listen to our episode on Polyvagal Theory for more info) tells us, as infants, that if we cry, our caregiver will react a certain way. We inhibit information according to what will keep us safe and bring us closer to our ca...

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0:00.0

Hey everybody.

0:03.7

Hey everybody. Hey everybody.

0:04.5

Welcome to Therapist UnCensert.

0:06.5

This is a podcast that breaks down interpersonal science into practical and understandable

0:11.2

tidbits.

0:12.2

And as you listen, I can just imagine little light bulbs of insight appearing

0:17.1

above your head. You're going to be surprised and touched at what you learn

0:20.9

about yourself is you get more accurate and in-depth view of your mind and your heart

0:25.2

and as you figure out those close to you. Therapist Unsensored brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy,

0:38.2

relational neuroscience, modern attachment, and anything else they think will be helpful in healing humans.

0:43.0

Now, hear your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly, and Sue Marriott.

0:47.0

Hey, Sue Marriott.

0:50.0

Hey, Ann Kelly.

0:52.0

Last two episodes, I have to say, episode 96, 97, those are my jam.

0:58.0

You like that, huh? Yes, you're interviewing Dr. Patricia Critidin. I mean, we've read her work, we've been inspired by our work to actually

1:06.1

get to really listen to her and just hearing her thought process and going through all the details

1:11.0

I really kind of geeked out though I could

1:13.3

imagine it might have been just a little overwhelming for some individuals that

1:16.6

this stuff may not be as familiar to. Yeah I know I think you're right she was

1:20.3

really delightful this episode is going to stand by itself, so if you haven't heard those two, don't worry about it.

1:26.5

But what we're talking about and kind of like a little giddy about is being able to get Patricia Creddon on. She is one of the mothers basically of the

1:35.1

field just very briefly, you know, it's Bulby, Ainsworth, and that Ainsworth had a student

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