We the professionals think we know the story and we pack our own words into the

mouths of people who cannot remember and we think we're being helpful.

Hey everybody!

Hey everybody, Hey everybody.

Welcome to Therapist UnCensored.

This is a podcast that breaks down interpersonal science into practical and understandable tidbits.

And as you listen, I can just imagine little light bulbs of insight appearing above your head.

You're going to be surprised and touched at what you learn about yourself as you get more accurate and in-depth view of your mind and your heart and as you figure out

those close to you.

Therapist Unsensored brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy,

relational neuroscience, modern attachment, and anything else they think will be helpful

in healing humans.

Now, hear your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly and Sue Marriott.

Hello, I'm Anne Kelly, and in today's episode, my co-host Sue Marriott jumps back in with our guest

Dr. Patricia Crudenden. Now this is the second of a two-part interview, but don't worry if you hadn't heard

last episode, the first part, because they can stand alone. We really couldn't be more honored

to have gotten so much time with Dr. Crittenden that we needed two episodes to be able to cover all the material

she has to bring to you all today. She's a rock star really. You may not know her name but she has studied directly under

Mary Ainsworth and worked closely with John Bulby and she has through decades of

research in publication she's developed her own model of how we attach and adapt to the world

and that's called a dynamic maturational model. You'll hear Dr. Critterton refer to it as

D. M. She is going to discuss that model. In fact, Dr. Crudenden represents one of

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