Welcome to Therapis Unsensored, a podcast where therapists freely speak their minds about real life matters. Hi, welcome back to Therapece Unsaintered.

This is Anne Kelly.

And I'm Sue Marriott. And I'm Sue Marriott and I'm Patty

Allwell. Today we wanted to talk to you about anxiety. It's a topic that we all

struggle with and the way I like to think about it is that it's noise in the system and what I mean by that is that we people think of it as an emotion but it's not it really is something that

keeps us from feeling our emotions yeah it makes me think of like the hum when you're listening to your headphones or something

and it's humming.

That's not the actual sound.

That's a noise in the system.

Exactly.

What you're trying to transport through your headphones is the sound.

So is what you're saying, Patty, that feelings are the sound,

are the music,

exactly.

And anxiety and worry is the hum.

Yes, and a lot of times the feelings we're trying.

But it feels like a feeling. I know that, but a lot of times the

feelings we're trying to get away from are uncomfortable. You know, either were angry or sad or upset and the sort of worry kind of makes us feel like we have more control over this than we do.

So what you're saying is that we're feeling something going on in our system and we can

tell and it's discomfort.

We're feeling some level of discomfort and we don't like to, I don't, we don't like to feel discomfort and so we kind of

instinctively try to go to some place of power some place of feeling of control and

...