Welcome to Therapists on Censer. We know some of you have been

following kind of how this podcast has been going and that's hard for me to think

about actually because the only way we can do this is to imagine that we don't have

any listeners at all but slowly it's it's emerging that there are people actually out there listening to us.

So there are many people ask us kind of how it's going and what are their numbers and things

like that.

So quick update on that.

We've got over 40,000 downloads and we are at 88 countries now so we wanted to give a quick shout out to some of these

countries that have begun to show numbers of interest and it's actually interesting so I want to say our largest

outside of course the United States group is Australia, New Zealand, Europe for sure, the UK, Ireland, big group in Ireland and Canada.

But also there's growing interest in countries such as India, the Czech Republic Israel.

So hello, Slovenia, Turkey, Sri Lanka.

So we just want to, you know, give a wave Finland, Austria.

And the list goes on and on, I'm not going to just continue to name countries,

but we just wanted to give a quick acknowledgement about that and to thank everyone for continuing

to spread the word and about the relational sciences and we hope you

continue to share it with your friends and get the word out. But let's get right

to it. Today's episode is actually a direct request from our listeners,

and we're going to be speaking about grief.

And for that, we have brought in an expert on the subject.

Her name is Candice O'Sopher Russell,

and she's an expert from both sides. She'll be talking about that,

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