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Top Traders Unplugged

TTU13: Lessons From the Most Successful Turtle of All-Time ft. Jerry Parker – 1of2

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2014

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Imagine you found an advertisement in the newspaper offering a position with a one sentence application process.

Would you take it?

What if it was for a position where you would learn a proprietary trading system in which you would trade solely for owner of the firm?

What if that man was Richard Dennis?

Our next guest took that position in 1983 and it changed his life forever, for the better. He found himself with what was to become a famous title, a Turtle. He was given the opportunity to manage a million dollar account with specific rules to follow. Rules that he would learn to love and perfect.

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In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • About the Turtles and how the unique experiment grew into the Managed Futures/CTA Industry
  • How Wall Street Leaks inspired Jerry into understanding the industry
  • How Jerry encountered trend following for the first time
  • The One Sentence culture in Richard J. Dennis’s office
  • How to excel at unprecedented tests from leading traders
  • What it was like moving to Chicago to train as a Turtle
  • What the Turtle training was like and the mindset provided in the training
  • The most challenging thing about Trend Following when Jerry started with Richard Dennis
  • About the transition from Turtle Trading to starting his own organization, Chesapeake Capital in 1998
  • The evolution of Chesapeake’s strategy from day one after leaving Richard Dennis’s program
  • The early focus on diversification and adding new markets
  • Issues with trying to improve the original Richard Dennis
  • The shift in investor expectations with the growth of institutional investment organizations while operating on of the largest CTA firms in the industry
  • Why it’s best to take an optimal loss rather than a small loss
  • On the meaningfulness of track records and what else investors should be encouraged to explore when choosing an investment management decision

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The advertisement Jerry responded to in 1983:

Richard J. Dennis and CD commodities is accepting applications for the position of Commodity Future Trader to expand his established group of traders. Mr. Dennis and his associate will train a small group of applicants in his proprietary trading concepts. Successful candidates will then trade solely for Mr. Dennis. They will not be allowed to trade futures for themselves or others. Traders will be paid a percentage of their trading profits and will be allowed a small draw. Prior experience will be considered, but is not necessary. Applicants should send a brief resume with one sentence giving their reason for applying.

Resources & Links Mentioned in this Episode:

  • The Barefoot Trader (Article about Richard Dennis in Wall Street Journal)
  • Learn more about Richard J. Dennis the founder of the Turtle program

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Top Traders Unplot, episode number 013, with Jerry Parker, founder and president of Chesapeake Capital.

0:09.4

This episode is sponsored by Saxo Bank and Swiss Financial Services.

0:14.0

Imagine spending an hour with the world's greatest traders.

0:17.6

Imagine learning from their experiences, their successes, and their failures. Imagine no more.

0:23.9

Welcome to Top Traders Unplugged, the place where you can learn from the best hedge fund managers in the

0:29.2

world so you can take your manager due diligence or investment career to the next level.

0:34.7

Here's your host, veteran hedge fund manager, Niels Kastrop Larson.

0:46.7

Today on the show, I have a very special guest, a very successful guest and a guest who used to be

0:53.1

my boss.

1:01.8

His trend following route stayed back to 1983 when he was selected to be part of Richard Dennis's famous turtle program.

1:04.2

For those who know me, you probably already guessed it, I'm talking about Jerry Parker,

1:09.8

the founder and president of

1:11.9

Chesapeake Capital, who has often been described as the most successful turtle ever.

1:24.6

Jerry, thanks so much for being with us today. I really appreciate your time.

1:30.4

Oh, thanks for having me. It's looking forward to it. Good. Now, Jerry, the turtle story is well known today.

1:36.6

But for many years, it was one of the best kept secrets in our industry. At least that's how I

1:42.7

remember it. But when I think about how the story has

1:46.0

become known over the last 10 years or so, not least due to the big efforts of Michael Covell,

1:51.4

who has written some great books on the subject, I'm not aware that any of the turtles have

1:56.1

ever talked about their experience in detail directly to a wider audience. There's been pieces of

2:02.7

information made public directly from one or two of the turtles, but not a lot. So I think today

2:08.4

will be quite special because you're able to set the record straight, so to speak, and tell us

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