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Top Traders Unplugged

TTU127: Trend Following L.A. Style ft. Ryan O' Grady, Co-Founder & CEO at ROW Asset Management

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Today, we are joined by Ryan O’ Grady, CEO and Co-Founder of ROW Asset Management, for a conversation on their all-weather, multi-strat approach to investing. We discuss the philosophy behind their trading strategy and why they choose to think holistically, why limiting yourself to trend following is a disadvantage and how they balance between simplicity and complexity in their research process, what they believe is the right number of markets to trade and how they diversify their portfolio. We also discuss what the pros and cons of replication are and how their work sets them apart from other trend followers, how they manage risk and mitigate drawdowns, how they succeed to run a multi asset portfolio and much more.

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Episode Timestamps:

02:23 - Introduction to ROW Asset Management

05:18 - Their investment philosophy and objective

11:43 - Should we worry about our sharpe?

16:31 - What to expect from pure trend

20:04 - Their research process

24:00 - Making changes to the system

26:40 - Their thoughts on machine learning

28:53 - New areas for research

30:52 - How many markets should you trade?

35:18 - Their thoughts on replication

38:49 - The risk of replication

42:02 - Managing drawdowns

45:16 -...

Transcript

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0:00.0

Trend is more interesting than just beta.

0:11.0

There's a lot of, especially the way we think about it, where there's sort of all these different.

0:16.0

The markets are made up of cycles of different frequencies, and so if you're employing trend, really what you're trying to capture is the meat part of those cycles.

0:25.6

And so there's some skill in understanding, should I be short term, should I be long term, should I be medium term?

0:30.6

Should I adjust that over time? Why do I adjust that over time?

0:34.6

So there's, it is definitely more interesting than just a very straightforward.

0:41.3

Here's the beta. Anybody could do this.

0:45.7

Imagine spending an hour with the world's greatest traders.

0:49.6

Imagine learning from their experiences, their successes, their successes, and their failures.

0:54.0

Imagine no more.

0:55.9

Welcome to Top Traders Unplugged, the place where you can learn from the best hedge fund managers

1:01.1

in the world so you can take your manager, due diligence, or investment career to the next

1:05.9

level.

1:06.7

Before we begin today's conversation, remember to keep two things in mind.

1:10.7

All the discussion we'll have about investment performance is about the past,

1:14.4

and past performance does not guarantee or even infer anything about future performance.

1:19.4

Also understand that there's a significant risk of financial loss with all investment strategies,

1:23.7

and you need to request and understand the specific risks from the investment

1:27.8

manager about their product before you make investment decisions. Here's your host, veteran hedge fund

1:33.5

manager, Nealz Kostrup Larson. Hey everyone, and welcome to another edition of Top Traders on

1:43.8

Block, where Alan Don and I are joined today by Ryan O'Grady, co-founder and CEO at Roe Ascent Management as part of our mini-series focusing on the one investment strategy that beat everything else in 2022, namely trend following and managed futures more broadly.

1:58.6

First off, Ryan, it is wonderful to have you on the podcast.

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