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Acquired

TSMC Founder Morris Chang

Acquired

Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal

Venturecapital, Ma, Investing, Acquisitions, Startups, Vc, Investment, Business, Technology

4.82.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 175 minutes

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Summary

We flew to Taiwan to interview TSMC Founder Morris Chang in a rare English interview. In fact, the last long-form video interview we could find was 17 years ago at the Computer History Museum… conducted by the one-and-only Jensen Huang! This episode came about after asking ourselves a version of the Jeff Bezos “regret minimization” question: what conversations would we most regret not having if the chance passed Acquired by? Dr. Chang was number one on our list, and thanks to a little help from Jensen himself, we’re so happy to make it happen.


Dr. Chang shares the stories of a few crucial moments from TSMC’s history which have only been written about in his (currently Chinese-only) memoirs, including how TSMC won Apple’s iPhone and Mac chip business and a 2009 discrepancy with NVIDIA that almost jeopardized their relationship, and the lessons he took from them. We can’t think of a better way to kick off 2025. Please enjoy!


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The podcast about great technology companies and the stories and playbook.

0:03.4

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0:07.2

Now we definitely have a cold opening.

0:09.4

All right.

0:10.3

I guess I really want us to be about technology companies again.

0:14.0

Well, this is a technology company.

0:15.6

It's a sign.

0:17.5

All right, here we go.

0:18.4

Who got the truth?

0:21.6

Is it you? Is it you? Is it you. Who got the truth? Is it you?

0:22.5

Is it you?

0:23.1

Is it you?

0:24.1

Is it you?

0:27.6

Is it you?

0:28.2

Is it you?

0:29.1

Sit me down.

0:30.4

Say it straight.

0:31.6

Another story on the way.

0:34.1

Who got the truth?

0:35.5

Welcome to the spring 2025 season of Acquired, the podcast about great companies and the stories and playbooks behind them.

0:42.6

I'm Ben Gilbert. I'm David Rosenthal. And we are your hosts. Today, we have something very special to share with you.

0:49.9

After becoming obsessed with semiconductors from our TSM episode four years ago, David and I

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