TSFU Ep. 187 - KIDNAPPED: Sally, Jan & Lolita - The Blueprint of Control (Part III)
That's So Fcked Up
Ashley Love Richards
4.5 • 541 Ratings
🗓️ 23 March 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
At first glance, these cases seem unrelated... a forgotten 1948 kidnapping, a shocking 1970s true crime case, and one of the most controversial novels ever written. But when you line them up, a disturbing pattern begins to emerge.
Authority.
Grooming.
Isolation.
Movement.
Social camouflage.
Narrative control.
Public misunderstanding.
In this episode, Ash breaks down the blueprint of coercive control that connects all three stories and explores how predators manipulate not just their victims, but the people and systems around them.
Because once you see the pattern… you can’t unsee it. And the more you recognize it, the harder it becomes for these stories to repeat themselves unnoticed.
TW: For everything mentioned above... this is an upsetting topic that I found very difficult to research, make sure to take care of yourselves 🫶
- Make sure to listen to TSFU Ep. 187 - KIDNAPPED: Sally Horner & The Real Story Behind Lolita (Part I) and TSFU Ep. 187 - KIDNAPPED: Jan Broberg & Abducted in Plain Sight - Part II (Re-Release) first!
- Here's the psychological warfare IG post that I referenced in the intro!! This woman explains what I mentioned in much greater and more understandable detail! 😅🫶
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | That is so fucked up. |
| 0:03.0 | It's fucked up. |
| 0:04.0 | So fucked up. |
| 0:06.0 | It is just so damn fucked up. |
| 0:10.0 | That's fucked up. |
| 0:14.0 | That's fucked up. |
| 0:16.0 | Ah, |
| 0:19.0 | Hi guys. Hey. What, come on, Kristen. |
| 0:25.6 | We are here. |
| 0:26.9 | Bring up, bring up, bring up the vibe because I'm going to bring it down real quick. |
| 0:31.2 | Yeah. |
| 0:32.4 | Hey, everybody. |
| 0:34.1 | Welcome back to the podcast. |
| 0:36.9 | This is That So Fucked Up up and over these last few weeks it's |
| 0:40.8 | really a podcast definitely about stuff that makes you go that's so fucked up that's so |
| 0:48.5 | fucking fucked are you fucking kidding me yeah that's the kind of vibe we're bringing right now. And I'm so sorry, |
| 0:55.1 | you guys, because I know that I said in a recent announcement, oh, you know, we're going to make |
| 0:59.9 | this a safe space, but the news keeps newsing and the government keeps governmenting and the world |
| 1:07.1 | keeps being on fire. And it's the end of the world as we know it and I don't feel |
| 1:15.7 | fine I'm not okay like are you okay Kristen I mean I feel like I trick myself into thinking that |
| 1:23.4 | I'm doing okay but like it's fucked up it's it's it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, a trick you got to play on |
| 1:33.5 | yourself. |
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