Hi friends, welcome to another episode of That Sounds Fun, a very special week at That Sounds Fun.

I'm your host, Annie F. Downs, but I'm not really your host this week. This week the show is hosted by Mike Kelsey.

But the music in the background is from our good buddy, Mr. Torren Wells. Make sure you grab a copy of his album, Citizen of Heaven.

So here's the thing after Pastor Mike Kelsey from McClain Bible Church in DC was on our show a couple

of weeks ago after the murder of Amad Aubrey. You guys have loved his conversation who he is, me too. I'm so

grateful to be friends with him. And a couple of weeks ago I just thought, you know what? Maybe Mike just needs to run the show

for a little bit. And so this week we don't have two episodes. We have three Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday.

And all three of them you will only hear me in the intro and the outro at the back part of the podcast

and in the middle to tell you about our partners. The rest of the show on the interviews and the conversations

are all hosted by Mike Kelsey. And I want you to know a couple of things. Number one, Mike has planned these shows, laid out these

shows, made all the plans and set up the week for us. And I'm so grateful. So we are starting the week with an

amazing conversation with Jamar Tisby, the author of the Color of Compromise. And this week starts with a

conversation between Mike and Jamar about why history matters and why what's going on today really matters. So here is

our host for the week, Mike Kelsey and Jamar Tisby.

All right, well, my name is Mike Kelsey and I'm a local pastor in the DC area, the church called McClain Bible

Church and it is good to be back on the AnyFdowns podcast. I have a guy with me who is becoming a friend but has

certainly been a guy that I've learned so much from and his name is Jamar Tisby. So Jamar Tisby, welcome to the AnyFdowns.

That sounds fun podcast. Man, you know it. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you thinking on me doc.

Absolutely, man. So I've kind of told you kind of what we're talking about this whole week. Any has

kind of given me the mic against her better judgment and I'm sure against the wisdom of her team. She's

giving me the microphone just to lead in some conversations around a lot of what we're resting through

in this cultural moment, issues of race and justice. And so we'll dive into some of that. But first,

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