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The Sword & The Trowel

TS&TT: The Christian in the Public Square

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9794 Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden welcome Pastor and Senator Dusty Deevers from Oklahoma. Senator Deevers give practical advice and guidance for how christians can engage in the public square and his survey of the local and national political landscape. Show Notes:Ready to plan your next event? Contact Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center: https://LYBCC.com Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Get 10% off Miller's Grove Soap with code "FOUNDERS": https://TheMillersGrove.com Order "Abstract of Systematic Theology": https://press.founders.org/shop/abstract-of-systematic-theology/ Register for the 2025 Founders Pastors' Seminar: https://founders.org/pastorsseminar/ Pre-Order "King of Kings": https://press.founders.org/shop/king-of-kings/ Pre-Order "The 1689 in Rhyme": https://press.founders.org/shop/the-1689-in-rhyme/ Shop the Founders Press Store: https://press.founders.org/ Become a part of the F.A.M. https://press.founders.org/fam/ The Institute of Public Theology: https://www.instituteofpublictheology.org/ Wield The Sword: https://founders.org/wieldthesword/ Follow Founders Ministries: Website: https://founders.orgFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/Twitter: https://twitter.com/FoundersMinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0

Thank you for joining us for this conversation today on the Sword and the Trowel.

0:03.2

This episode is brought to you by Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center and Miller's Grove

0:07.9

Soap Company. Today, Pastor Tom and I talk with Senator and Pastor Dusty Devers from Oklahoma.

0:13.5

He gives us some helpful advice on how Christians can be involved in politics in the public square.

0:19.2

And then also talks about what he sees in the political realm, both in his state and also nationally.

0:24.3

And we also get a helpful recap of the Southern Baptist Convention that happened a couple

0:27.8

weeks ago.

0:28.8

I hope it's a helpful conversation to you.

0:30.5

Take a listen.

0:34.6

Welcome to the Sword and the Trowel.

0:35.8

The Sword and the Trowel is a podcast of Founders Ministries

0:38.0

and Founders Exist for the Recovery of the Gospel and the Reformation of Local Churches. I'm Graham Gundin.

0:43.0

I'm Tom Askell. Today we have on the podcast our friend Dusty Devers. He is a state senator from Oklahoma.

0:49.2

And he's also the pastor of Grace Reformed Baptist Church in Elgin, Oklahoma. Welcome to the podcast today, Dusty.

0:55.4

It's great to be on with you guys.

0:56.9

You guys are always so kind and generous,

1:00.1

and I just very much appreciate your ministry and have for years,

1:04.3

and I'm just thrilled to be on with you guys.

1:07.1

Yeah, Dusty, it's always good to talk to you.

1:09.2

We're looking forward to having you down here in January

1:11.3

for our National Founders Conference. It's coming up January 2026, and we'll be talking about the

1:18.0

Great Commission and the Cultural Mandate and what it means to make disciples at home and to the ends of the earth.

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