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The Sword & The Trowel

TS&TT: Make Disciples: Obeying God's Mandate

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8850 Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden talk with Dr. Voddie Baucham, President of Founders Seminary, about making disciples. They discuss both the Dominion Mandate and the Great Commission, and clarify how these two different mandates go together in our lives as we seek to follow Christ's commands in our homes and the ends of the earth. SHOW NOTES: Ready to plan your next event? Contact Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center: https://LYBCC.com Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Get 10% off Miller's Grove Soap with code "FOUNDERS": https://TheMillersGrove.com Pre-Order "The 1689 in Rhyme": https://press.founders.org/shop/the-1689-in-rhyme/ Register for the Founders Single Event: https://founders.org/conference/ Apply to the Founders Seminary Spring 2026 semester: https://foundersseminary.org Founders Ministries: https://founders.org Support the Work of Founders: https://founders.org/give https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/https://twitter.com/FoundersMinhttps://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0

Thank you for joining us for this episode of the Sword and the Trial today.

0:03.0

Today, Pastor Tom and Dr. Bodhi Baklman and I talk about our upcoming conference taking

0:07.6

place in January of this next year.

0:10.1

It's on Making Disciples, the Dominion Mandate, and the Great Commission.

0:14.3

It's a good conversation that's been helpful for me and clarifying for me and how these two

0:18.2

different mandates and commissions relate to one another for us in Christ

0:21.8

in the church. Take a listen. Welcome to The Sword and the Troll. The Sword and the Trial is a podcast

0:29.2

of founders' ministries and founders exist for the recovery of the gospel and the reformation of local

0:33.9

churches. I'm Graham Gundin. I'm Tom Askell. And today this episode is brought to you by the

0:38.9

Miller's Grove Soap Company and Lake Yale Baptist Conference Center. Today, Pastor Tom and I have on with us,

0:44.7

our dear friend Voti Bakum. Welcome Vody Boi to the podcast. And today we want to talk about the upcoming

0:51.3

conference in January, and specifically the theme of the conference,

0:55.0

which is make disciples, God's mandate from the home to the ends of the earth.

1:00.6

January 22 through 24, 26 right here in sunny southwest Florida.

1:05.6

I say that every year. In the last couple of years, it's rained.

1:08.3

It's still better than being in Pennsylvania or New York or something like that in January. Yeah, this is a big theme. And it's a theme, I think, that's made a lot of people nervous. In fact, whenever we release the first little trailer on it, you know, good guys are saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, you know, don't be talking about bringing in the kingdom of God by fulfilling the cultural mandate. So, buddy, you've, you spent a lot of time thinking about

1:32.0

these things. You've been involved in cultural apologetics for years. So are you nervous about

1:38.0

this theme? No. No, not at all. I wrote a whole trilogy of books on, you know, this theme.

1:45.3

I think it's incredibly important.

1:48.1

And I think it's where the rubber meets the road.

1:49.8

When you start talking about, you know, what's happening out there in culture

1:53.5

and where the culture is going, where the world is going,

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