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The Sword & The Trowel

TS&TT: Immigration: Honoring God by Obeying His Law

The Sword & The Trowel

Founders Ministries

Education, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9794 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden discuss the first weeks of the Trump administration and specifically the heightened attention to immigration, deportations, and birthright citizenship. They talk about biblical ways that pastors, churches, christians, and American citizens should think through these issues. Show Notes:Get 10% off Miller's Grove Soap with code "FOUNDERS": https://TheMillersGrove.com Pre-Order "What Did God Make?": http://press.founders.org/shop/what-did-god-make/ Get a FREE Bag of Coffee from Squirrelly Joe's: https://SquirrellyJoes.com/Founders Check out the Founders Study Center: https://study.founders.org/ Register for the 2026 National Founders Conference - Make Disciples: https://founders.org/conference/ Pre-Order "Made to be Glorious": https://press.founders.org/shop/made-to-be-glorious/ Shop the Founders Press Store: https://press.founders.org/ Become a part of the F.A.M. https://press.founders.org/fam/ The Institute of Public Theology: https://www.instituteofpublictheology.org/ Wield The Sword: https://founders.org/wieldthesword/ Follow Founders Ministries: Website: https://founders.orgFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/FoundersMin/Twitter: https://twitter.com/FoundersMinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/foundersministries/ All Founders Ministries resources are copyrighted and any use and distribution must be approved by Founders Ministries.

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0:00.0

Thank you for joining us in this conversation, the Sword and the Trowel today. Today, Pastor Tom and I talk about immigration issues, deportation, birthright citizenship, and how pastors, Christians, churches, and American citizens ought to think about these things and how we can be obedient to the Lord as he's command us to be obedient to his law.

0:20.4

Welcome to The Sword and the Trial.

0:21.8

The Sword and the Trial is a podcast of Founders Ministries,

0:24.1

and Founders Exists for the Recovery of the Gospel

0:25.8

and the Reformation of local churches.

0:27.8

I'm Tom Askell.

0:29.0

And I am Graham Gundin.

0:30.2

That's not true.

0:31.8

I'm Graham Gundy.

0:32.8

I wish I was Graham Gunden, but I am Tom Askell.

0:35.3

This episode is brought to you by Miller's Grove soap company and Squirley Joe's Coffee. Today, Tom and I want to talk a little bit about what's

0:43.3

going on in our nation and in our culture right now, and that is the issue of immigration.

0:49.3

Yeah, which is just one of many issues that we are being confronted with in ways we haven't been because of

0:58.0

the new president that we have. President Trump hit the ground running. His first week was hard to

1:04.9

keep up with. It's like whiplash with every new executive order. And the executive order that was

1:09.4

early on dealing with immigration has

1:11.8

resulted in a crackdown on illegal immigration and illegal immigrants who are being arrested

1:19.5

and deported or detained for deportation or for further legal dealings.

1:28.2

And it's created a lot of confusion, a lot of fear.

1:32.4

There are people who are saying finally,

1:34.7

and we as pastors have to think about that.

1:37.0

We have immigrants in our church.

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