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If Iran wants to let this negotiation fall apart in a conflict where they were getting hammered over Lebanon,

which has nothing to do with them and which the United States never once said was part of the ceasefire,

that's ultimately their choice.

We think that would be dumb, but that's their choice.

The dizzying situation in the Gulf of the Straits of Hormuz, the U.S., Iran, Israel, Lebanon, and all the players.

Let's dive right into it with military analyst Mike Lyons.

Mike, welcome.

How are you today?

Hey, Joe, great to be back with you.

Great. Always good to have you.

So, you know, I think both of us who probably read about studied various peace agreements through history

and how some of them were a bit rocky or, you know, there were hidden elements that the layman

didn't learn about until many years later.

But I don't recall anything as

wobbly and complicated as this in recent memory. Yeah, I don't, I've never seen sides so far apart.

I mean, I guess the 15 points on our side versus the 10 on their side, they are the most

maximalist demands you've ever seen. I seen coming from Iran or from really any country,

basically saying that they could do whatever they want, whenever they want to do it,

and I'll do whatever they want to another country whenever they want to do it to them too.

So I don't know where this will start.

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