Gahey humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. What will reality feel like when we get most of it via all-knowing machines? That's the big doozy of a question as AI comes to engulf so much of our lives, our shared understanding of the world has already

been fractured by social media and its echo chambers of news and entertainment and misinformation

and distraction and addiction, could artificial intelligence help re-establish common facts,

or will it only make the concept of truth, even slipperier?

Those are the questions Steve Rosenbaum is grappling with.

He's an Emmy-winning former television news producer.

He was a TED resident and the boss of the NYC Media Lab.

He's written a new book entitled The Future of Truth, How AI Reshapes Reality,

and he joined me to explore the death of traditional news, why TikTok is so addictive,

how young people think about trustworthiness, and how we can fortify facts in a world of slop.

I hope you enjoy as much as I did, the one, the only, Steve Rosenbaum.

Steve, you just got back from TED, from the TED conference in Vancouver, and before we

were recording, you were saying you had some interesting conversations about truth up there. Can you spill the beans on any? What's the vibe?

So at the risk of aging myself, I've been going to TED for a very long time. And I actually ended up

being a TED resident for five months in their New York offices.

And so I have kind of a deep-seated relationship with the place and the people.

But every, you know, it's, there is no room on earth where there are more incredibly smart

people.

And so, you know, if you know what's good for you, you mostly stay in the

corner and don't say anything at the risk of arguing with a PhD in neuroscience, which would not have

ended well for me. I, the book, the book is not out yet. And so I literally had two copies.

So I couldn't sell them.

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