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From Cafe, welcome to Stay Tuned. I'm Pete Barara.

Some of these people, not many now, but certainly the ones who worked on the campaign,

they worked with Matterford and they know Cohen. They're both going to jail.

It gets really real when you find out that two people that you worked in close proximity

with are going to prison. That's Jonathan Swan. He covers the White House as a national

political correspondent at Axiops. I speak with him about a lot of things, but mostly

about what the hell is going on in the White House. It meets the stories that have come

out in Bob Woodward's new book Fear and Various Leaks in pretty much every outlet in the

country. What's the state of play in the White House at this moment? What's the state

of mind of the president in charge of the White House? That's coming up. Stay tuned.

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