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It's been a long year, it almost took me down, I swear. Life was so good, I'm not so sure we knew what we had. I'll never be the same man. I'll never feel like I felt before. It's been a hard year, it almost took me down.

But when my world broke into pieces, you were there faithfully. When I cried out to you, Jesus made a way for me. I may never be the same man, but I'm a man who still believes. When I cried out to you, Jesus, you were there faithfully.

That's Toby Mack and he's our guest today on Focus on the Family, sharing how he's experienced the hope and goodness of Christ, even through tragedy.

Thanks for joining us today, your host is Focus President and author Jim Daly and I'm John Fuller.

What you're about to hear was recorded before a live audience, a group of men in Florida and our special guest was Toby Mack. Let's go ahead and join Jim Daly with that conversation.

John God doesn't promise us an easy road in this life. Many people know my story, all of us have some pain at some level and we go through sorrow, we go through loss.

He does provide comfort and peace, sometimes you don't see it. I love that great verse in Romans 828 that all things work for good to those who love the Lord and are called by His name.

Sometimes it's so cloudy, you can't feel that, even as a believer, you can't feel that. I think David, King David, maybe Toby Mack here, our guest, has poured his heart out to God in His music after the loss of His eldest son.

Today we're going to talk to Toby about that experience because he too lost his eldest son.

I want people to lean into this because although it's painful, it does have such redemption to trust the Lord, love the Lord and move forward.

Toby Mack is a contemporary Christian artist. He's a singer, a rapper, a songwriter, a former member of the Hit Band DC talk. My goodness, he's won seven Grammy Awards. He's produced six gold records.

He was twice named artist of the year at the Dove Awards and we could go on with his list of accomplishments. His new album, which does reveal his great loss but also his hope in Christ, is called Life After Death.

And we're looking forward to hearing more in this conversation.

Toby, welcome to focus.

Thank you.

Let's get to the core of it. Your Christian faith. In the music industry, it's so hard to maintain that.

Speak to becoming a Christian and how did you keep your focus on the right things when you were a superstar?

Well, I don't know about a superstar but I know that I fell in love with Jesus at 13 years old at a small camp in a youth pastor sat on the floor after everything went on.

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