I'm Hannah, one of Dutch's daughters, and for today's podcast, I decided I wanted to hijack this episode a little bit.

Because I wanted to have a conversation

with my dad about the current state of affairs around the world today.

Let me just say, or she goes any farther. The three ladies in my life have been

hijacking my plans for 30 years. Go right ahead, Hannah. So business as usual, then. I wanted to have a conversation with you today about the current state of affairs around the world because at the time we are recording this, the coronavirus or COVID-19 is riding through the world like a freaking tsunami. And it's brought waves of panic, fear, anxiety, greed, uncertainty.

But at the same time, we've seen humanity rally together and respond with counterwaves of kindness, neighborly love, hope.

So I wanted to have a conversation with you today about all of this and kind of ask some questions like, no matter what we see going on around us, is it time to just have blind trust in the sovereignty of God? Is this a time where we as humanity figuratively

hold hands and saying he's got the whole world in his hands? Or is there some possible mixture

of both reality and hope that's possible in times like this.

So let's kick it off with that question of just, what are you thinking? How do you see it?

Because the world's in a little bit of chaos and how do we have trust, have faith, have hope

in times like this that's actually grounded in reality?

Well, those are great questions.

And, you know, the challenge for me in answering a question like that is trying to get too

theological, because I know it's not what people want in time like this.

It's never been what you wanted.

I think everything goes back to trust.

If we're going to walk in peace through a situation like this, go back to faith and trust. But that's, I don't want that to be just a religious answer.

Yeah.

How do we do that is the question.

Exactly.

But let me still start there because anytime I'm going through a difficult situation,

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