Welcome to Resilience Development in Action with Steve Bisson.

This is the podcast dedicated to first responder mental health, helping police, fire,

EMS, dispatchers, and paramedics create better growth environments for themselves and their teams.

Let's get started.

Okay. teams. Let's get started. And just like magic, we're dressed the same exact way, but it's a week later. I don't know.

It's a week later.

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Welcome again to resilience development in action to Dr. Stacey Raymond. We talked about EMDR the last episode, but I want to focus on something that's meant a lot to me too. And I see that it means a lot to you too. So that's why I'm excited about this too. We're going to talk about your book, Helping the Helpers, particularly. I think that's very helpful for therapists to look at.

I should probably show it, right? There it is, helping the helpers. And it's co-authored with

David Dashinger. He's a retired fire lieutenant. And there's Bonnie Rummilly. And she has been an EMT

since the age of 17. So she did it for most of her life, but she's a clinical social worker now.

So the three of us put this together based on what we called the master class series where we

interviewed clinicians working with various branches of public safety. And we have a podcast

as well called Responder Resilience.

Well, I'd love to be on there too, but I was going to joke around. So she drove the

ambulance. That's great. Just tell her right to me. We'll figure it out. You know, I'm joking.

But no, I think that that's exactly where my passion is also about it. I love working my first

responder people. But I think it's important

to understand that for me I really think that we need to start at the academy level and when they come in

you know when you train a paramedic EMT police law enforcement official of any kind I think that starting

about you know I think that now in, we do a whole 24 to 40 hours

depending on which academy to talk about mental health. On a six month level, that's a drop in the

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