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Trust In Science, California Power Outages, Regrowing Cartilage. Oct 11, 2019, Part 1

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🗓️ 11 October 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Despite widely reported attacks on science, the vast majority of Americans continue to trust scientists, according to the latest survey from the Pew Research Center. Many listeners of Science Friday might take it as a given that we should trust science, but is that trust well-founded? Naomi Oreskes, history of science professor at Harvard University, argues that we should. In her new book, Why Trust Science?, she explains how science works and what makes it trustworthy. (Hint: it’s not the scientific method.) Pacific Gas & Electric has generated confusion—not to mention outrage—with its power grid shutdowns. The situation continues for a second day in 34 California counties. On social media and phone calls to KQED’s Forum radio program, people throughout PG&E’s service area have asked how and why the investor-owned utility took this step. KQED reporters have some answers to some of the questions that have come in. Why Is PG&E Turning the Power Off? Is This PG&E’s Fault? Bottom line, PG&E doesn’t want to risk having its power lines start another fire, so it is pre-emptively turning the power off during this week’s dry, windy weather. The company made the decision based on information from its wildfire center, where meteorologists keep watch on fire conditions. PG&E’s power lines have sparked many catastrophic wildfires in California, including last year’s Camp Fire in Butte County that caused 85 deaths, making it the deadliest U.S. wildfire in 100 years. PG&E lines started more than a dozen fires in 2017. Less than a month ago, the company agreed to pay billion in a settlement with victims of the recent fires. The shutoffs are part of its wildfire mitigation plan, mandated by the state and agreed to by the California Public Utilities Commission, the state’s top power regulator. — Kevin Stark Who Made This Decision? When Did They Make It? If past practice tells us anything, PG&E has been making and remaking this decision, with the help of its meteorological team, over several days. The utility says it considers weather, fuel and other conditions and observations, as well as the need for notice by state and local parties, when it decides to implement shutoffs. As we’ve seen over the last few days, the planned outage times can change with shifting conditions. The fact is, there’s nothing new about turning off power lines when conditions get risky: San Diego Gas and Electric, with the permission of the CPUC, has mitigated fire risk this way since 2012. What is new are the guidelines PG&E filed just a year ago for its public safety power shutoff procedures. For the last couple of years, the CPUC has required investor-owned utilities to describe their processes for arriving at decisions like the one affecting nearly three dozen California counties right now. PG&E shut off power two times last year; the last time PG&E called a public safety power shutoff, for two days in June, it affected about 22,000 customers in the North Bay and the Sierra foothills, including Butte County and Paradise. — Molly Peterson Read more questions and answers on Science Friday. Cartilage is the connective tissue that provides padding between your joints. As we age, the wearing down of cartilage can lead to different types of arthritis. It’s been long believed that once humans lose cartilage, it can never grow back. Now, a team of researchers investigated this idea, and found that the cartilage in our ankles might be able to turnover more easily compared to our hips and knees. Their results were published in the journal Science Advances. Rheumatologist Virginia Byers Kraus, who was an author on the study, discusses how human cartilage might be able to regenerate and what this means for future treatments.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Iroflato. Should we trust science? A new book argues we should,

0:07.2

but not for the reasons that you might think. Well, we'll talk about it, but first, the score is out,

0:12.9

and it was a close one, 79 to 82. What's that? Well, that tally is the number of moons Jupiter has compared to Saturn,

0:22.1

and Saturn is now officially the most mooniferous planet in the solar system.

0:27.3

Astronomers spotted 20 new moons around the ring planet.

0:31.1

My next guest is here to tell us why Saturn is such a moon magnet.

0:34.9

Maggie Kerth Baker is senior science reporter for 538, usually out there in

0:39.5

Minneapolis, St. Paul, but she's right here in New York with us. Hi. Nice to see who you, what you look

0:44.5

like. Nice to see you. All right, there's a lot of new moons. How do they define them? Why are there so

0:51.2

many? Well, you know, for those keeping track at home, this is 81 more than

0:54.8

the Earth has. And I think one of the most interesting questions out of this is why does Saturn

1:00.0

have so many and why do we have so few? And that was a really cool article that Charlie Wood did over

1:07.4

at Popular Science sort of focused on this. And it turns out that what the researchers are finding is that these moons that Saturn has, they didn't start out as part of Saturn. Like our moon is this result of a giant collision that sort of blew off part of the early Earth billions of years ago. Saturn is just sort of sucking in asteroids as they go by because its

1:29.8

gravitational pool is so big. And then like once they're there, they're running into each other,

1:34.5

they're running into other space objects. And so you get like these little bitty trails of,

1:40.9

you know, kind of almost like dust and bits. So some of them are bigger, though, right?

1:46.0

Some of them are big and some are as small as a kilometer across.

1:49.0

Wow. Wow. And some of them embedded in the rings of Santa?

1:53.0

Some are in the rings. Some are outside the rings. It's just kind of, it seems to be

1:58.0

sort of random about where they go. Could they get more moons, do you think?

2:01.6

They could.

2:02.8

That's one of the interesting findings in this paper is that the process of acquiring moons is actually easier than we thought it was.

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