Trumpocracy

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🗓️ 6 April 2018

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

“Trump gambled that Americans resent each other’s differences more than they cherish their shared democracy. So far that gamble has paid off,” writes David Frum in his new book Trumpocracy. Along with The Atlantic's Global Editor Kathy Gilsinan, David joins to explain how President Trump has undermined our most important institutions. What does democracy around the world look like when the leader of the free world is less interested in it himself? Links - Trumpocracy (David Frum, 2018) - “Saudi Crown Prince: Iran's Supreme Leader 'Makes Hitler Look Good'” (Jeffrey Goldberg, April 2, 2018) - “The Risks to Freedom in Hungary” (David Frum, April 5, 2018) - “How to Build an Autocracy” (David Frum, March 2017 Issue) - “Freedom Fights for Survival in Hungary” (David Frum, April 10, 2017) - “An Exit From Trumpocracy” (David Frum, January 18, 2018) - “Americans Can't Afford to Grow Used to This” (David Frum, January 9, 2018) - “Tracking the appearances of “rosy-fingered Dawn” in The Odyssey” (Jason Kottke, kottke.org, April 3, 2018) - “Strategies of Attainment” (C. Lee Shea, War on the Rocks, April 1, 2018) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	President Trump has been an X factor in the office of the commander-in-chief.
0:03.9	It's impossible to know what he's going to do next and what or whom he's most committed to.
0:08.8	But the chaos of the administration has revealed much about America, its institutions, and its place in the world.
0:15.0	How is America responding to Trump?
0:17.7	And how is that response shaping our democracy?
0:20.6	This is Radio Atlantic. Hi, I'm Matt Thompson, Executive Editor of the Atlantic, here with my co-host and
0:39.6	editor-in-chief, the esteemed Jeffrey Goldberg. Hello Jeff.
0:42.3	Hi, Matt. We are joined here in
0:44.8	DC by two of our colleagues. First, the Atlantic's global editor, Kathy Gilson
0:49.6	and hello Kathy. Hey Matt. And once again we welcome our colleague David from hi David. Hey David the last time you were here with us on Radio Atlantic I believe you were tucked away in Belleville Ontario surrounded, surrounded by the legacy, if I remember correctly, of British
1:05.8	loyalists to the crown.
1:08.0	Exactly.
1:09.0	He was fled America after the revolution.
1:11.6	And you were at that time working on a book right and now that book is out and it is a
1:17.4	characteristically perceptive and thought-provoking read and so congratulations
1:22.4	thank you thank you very much characteristically are you provoking Reed and so congratulations.
1:22.6	Thank you.
1:23.0	Thank you very much.
1:23.6	Characteristically, are you sure?
1:27.1	Characteristically.
1:28.5	We'll go down that rabbit hole later.
1:31.6	It is called Trumpocracy, the corruption of the American Republic.
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