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Hello, welcome to the new European podcast. My name's Richard Porritt and I'm joined by Steve

Anglesey. Hello, Snowflakes. How are you, Steve? I'm all right. Interesting week.

You will. It's been a very

interesting week, but I think we should start by saying hello to our new listener. Yeah.

Who is, as you will know, is James Cleverley. That's right. Because last week on this very podcast,

we went through the list of Tory leadership candidates. We did. And when we got to

James Clevel, I think I said he should just get out now. And a couple of days after I said that,

what's he doing in there? It's going to end it embarrassingly for him. He should just pull out.

And he said, it's clear my colleagues

are not comfortable with such a move, and therefore I am withdrawing. He didn't say,

Porr it and Anglesea of... No, but did you see the review? Did you see the review that we had

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